Deadshot vs Winter Soldier...

Started by TheLordofMurder30 pages

@Froth

100+ absolutely perfect, right between the eyes, headshots in a row on various targets, at various distance, with various weapons...

All in rapid succession...

But its nothing special...

Get out of here with that garbage Froth...

Also, aren't you the same guy who adamantly refused to accept a non combat showing to be used in any way within a combat scenario?

hmm

Originally posted by Nibedicus
He doesn't need to.

He just needs to hit a target at 100m (hard, but something even real world trained humans can do) and fire before the other guy fires.

Given the distance, Deadshot will be able fire anyway as Winter Soldier speed at aiming seems to be no faster than Deadshots...

No CGI was used to exaggerate the aiming speed of either of the actors..

Btw, have you seen Suicide Squad yet?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Also, aren't you the same guy who adamantly refused to accept a non combat showing to be used in any way within a combat scenario?

hmm

Are you debating without having seen Suicide Squad?

Nice deflection. Are you denying this?

Logic doesn't need to be witness to something to be debated. As logic is consistent.

If any of the logical points I've debated required that I saw the movie, pls point thiose out.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Also, aren't you the same guy who adamantly refused to accept a non combat showing to be used in any way within a combat scenario?

hmm

You trying to twist things; these are different situations with different factors...

Not an apples to apples comparison...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You trying to twist things; these are different situations with different factors...

Not an apples to apples comparison...

Really?

What's the difference between the two? Pls elaborate.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Nice deflection. Are you denying this?

Logic doesn't need to be witness to something to be debated. As logic is consistent.

If any of the logical points I've debated required that I saw the movie, pls point thiose out.

Lol!!!!

Now that's some major trolling...

You in here debating with only 50% of the data because you haven't seen Suicide Squad yet...

Dude, go watch the dam movie then come back so we can debate properly...

You are in no position to debate these characters when you have literally only seen one of them in action...

Lol!!!!!

😂

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Really?

What's the difference between the two? Pls elaborate.

Please stay on topic...

I'm not going there today...

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Nice deflection. Are you denying this?

Logic doesn't need to be witness to something to be debated. As logic is consistent.

If any of the logical points I've debated required that I saw the movie, pls point thiose out.

You assume Bucky can aim faster despite the fact that there is no evidence to back it up...

You haven't even seen Deadshot aim yet...

Arguing that Bucky can aim faster than him is dishonest on your part...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Lol!!!!

Now that's some major trolling...

You in here debating with only 50% of the data because you haven't seen Suicide Squad yet...

Dude, go watch the dam movie then come back so we can debate properly...

You are in no position to debate these characters when you have literally only seen one of them in action...

Lol!!!!!

😂

For as long as I situatate my points within that 50% data and request that the half of the data missing is supplemented by others (essentially. I only debate what WS can do and ask those that have seen SS to fill in the gaps on what DS can do), that is perfectly fine. Or have you not seen ppl form opinions/arguments by consultation before?

Again, stop dancing around the subject. You were so adamant about combat-"feats" only, we had to call a mod (sadly topic got closed before I could get back and disucss it with Imp). Either differentiate this instance from the one we were debatin or admit to hypocrisy here.

Be consistent.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
For as long as I situatate my points within that 50% data and request that the half of the data missing is supplemented by others (essentially. I only debate what WS can do and ask those that have seen SS to fill in the gaps on what DS can do), that is perfectly fine. Or have you not seen ppl form opinions/arguments by consultation before?

Again, stop dancing around the subject. You were so adamant about combat-"feats" only, we had to call a mod (sadly topic got closed before I could get back and disucss it with Imp). Either differentiate this instance from the one we were debatin or admit to hypocrisy here.

Be consistent.

Experience Suicide Squad 1st hand then we can debate...

Until then we can't have this conversation...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You assume Bucky can aim faster despite the fact that there is no evidence to back it up...

You haven't even seen Deadshot aim yet...

Arguing that Bucky can aim faster than him is dishonest on your part...

No, I never directly stated Bucky was faster than DS. Next time quote me befoe you toss around accusations. As you doing that is actually the act w/c is dishonest.

I stated that WS has showings where he succesfully pulled off feats that would require at least an enhanced level of arm speed and precision (bullet blocking).

As WS haS nit demonstrated measurable quick draw skills and no one has come forward to state any DS speed shooting showings (anyone who has seen the SS movie is welcome to come in and correct this) as neither likely has had the need to, then one needs to argue indirect "feats" to see who can move their arms faster. And in the absence of direct evidence, secondary evidence can be brought in.

All I said was that I would bet on the one that actually has those said "feats".

Originally posted by Nibedicus
No, I never directly stated Bucky was faster than DS. Next time quote me befoe you toss around accusations. As you doing that is actually the act w/c is dishonest.

I stated that WS has showings where he succesfully pulled off feats that would require at least an enhanced level of arm speed and precision (bullet blocking).

As WS haS nit demonstrated measurable quick draw skills and no one has come forward to state any DS speed shooting showings (anyone who has seen the SS movie is welcome to come in and correct this) as neither likely has had the need to, then one needs to argue indirect "feats" to see who can move their arms faster. And in the absence of direct evidence, secondary evidence can be brought in.

All I said was that I would bet on the one that actually has those said "feats".

You implied that Bucky had a faster draw despite never having seen Deadshot aim...

That is 100% dishonest...

Anyway, go watch Suicide Squad...

We cant go any further until you have all the data firsthand...

Whatever, man.

shrug

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Whatever, man.

shrug

Come on man...

You are fully reasonable and a rational, intelligent, debater....I know that.

But you gotta watch the movie before debating...

Originally posted by FrothByte
Oh you mean the part where he shot non-moving targets at very close range that weren't firing back at him and where he could plant his feet and not worry about ducking for cover?

When has Bucky ever missed at close range? If you mean his fight against Cap then I could easily say DS missed Batman.

I cited this way back when and now I am being vindicated. Stationary not moving targets who aren't fighting back. LOM is the worst.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Whatever, man.

shrug

LoM is a troll who creates topics in which he tries to favor which side his bias chooses then he wigs out when people disagree. When they don't he will brag about the voting in which his socks vote. He couldn't debate to save his own life.

Originally posted by quanchi112
LoM is a troll who creates topics in which he tries to favor which side his bias chooses then he wigs out when people disagree. When they don't he will brag about the voting in which his socks vote. He couldn't debate to save his own life.

I never sock....

13-5; the lead increases... 🙂

The evidence has spoken through the voters...

Deadshot wins....

Originally posted by quanchi112
I cited this way back when and now I am being vindicated. Stationary not moving targets who aren't fighting back. LOM is the worst.

Deadshots feats of accuracy are so good, they make WS cry in envy...

🙂