Dave Filoni on Ahsoka Tano vs Darth Vader / The Emperor

Originally posted by quanchi112
So Yoda flipping around and his movements aren't faster than Dooku. Your Dooku denial is approaching Jupiter sized levels. Yoda is faster than Dooku.

Watch his movements. The manner in which he runs, etc. watch his force run. 😂

The text also stated Vos was faster. You ignored that clear statement. Vos is faster and Dooku has great technique so once again I am vindicated.

Going back to the original claim of Kenobi being faster than Dooku, can you provide support for your claim? Or are we going to beat around the bush until you finally admit that there is none?

Originally posted by Kurk
I'm not saying that Dooku is faster than Yoda, I'm saying that Dooku was able to contend with him. Dooku had to end the fight b/c his force reserves would deplete before Yoda's. Speaking of Yoda, there is an example of an 800 year old being faster than most younger than him. Maul must be pretty slow now as well in Rebels being above 50 years of age. Anyway, the point is that Dooku is pretty fast. Vos dodging Dooku's attack once is not indicative of a clear force-power imbalance. He did not speedblitz Dooku; Dooku over-extended and Vos took advantage of the opportunity.

Going back to the original claim of Kenobi being faster than Dooku, can you provide support for your claim? Or are we going to beat around the bush until you finally admit that there is none?

Watch the fights and the force run. That's evidence. Show me Dooku moving anywhere near that speed. If you cannot concede to me, *****.

There are quotes that have that fight being equal. I don't know why everyone lowballs Dooku...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku was outmatched. Yoda was faster but not to the extent he's on another level. He's just quicker and better. Dooku had no choice but to attack his friends because in a straight up duel he was outmatched. I never said Dooku was really, really slow I said he's slower than Kenobi. Vos was described as faster and dancing around him which means superior speed as well. Quit with the excuses. The text clearly says Vos was faster.

Watch the fights and the force run. That's evidence. Show me Dooku moving anywhere near that speed. If you cannot concede to me, *****.

"Vos all but danced around Dooku, forcing the older man to whirl, strike, and block from every side."

If Vos managed to dance around Dooku faster than Dooku could defend himself, then yes he would have been slower. This is not the case however. Like I've said already, Dooku over-extended. Vos did not speedblitz Dooku. He was completely unpredictable.

Tell me when you'll admit that there's no evidence to suggest Kenobi is faster.

Originally posted by Kurk
If you're asking for examples of Dooku doing crazy aerobatics, there are very few. Like I said, Dooku's combat style does not call for those kinds of moves. Makashi emphasizes a defensive nature with counter-attacks and conversation of movement/energy. The best example would be of him barrel rolling, kicking, and throwing around Kenobi on Oba Diah. You seem to attribute these things to skill rather than speed which while I cannot deny that skill is a factor, you cannot break through people's defenses like that without being faster than them.

"Vos all but danced around Dooku, forcing the older man to whirl, strike, and block from every side."

If Vos managed to dance around Dooku faster than Dooku could defend himself, then yes he would have been slower. This is not the case however. Like I've said already, Dooku [b]over-extended. Vos did not speedblitz Dooku. He was completely unpredictable.

Tell me when you'll admit that there's no evidence to suggest Kenobi is faster. [/B]

The same quotes already said Vos was faster. Quit doing mental gymnastics to excuse the fact he was canonically mentioned as faster than Dooku.

I already cited the force run. If you can't out do that then you concede. It's that simple.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is highly skilled with a light saber that doesn't mean he is quicker maneuverability wise. Kenobi is sloppier and not as technically skilled as Dooku.

The same quotes already said Vos was faster. Quit doing mental gymnastics to excuse the fact he was canonically mentioned as faster than Dooku.

I already cited the force run. If you can't out do that then you concede. It's that simple.

Quit doing mental gymnastics to excuse the fact Maul was canonically defeated by a blind padawan. Learn to read between the lines.

What force run?

Originally posted by Kurk
All of the time points I cited for you do not involve Dooku blocking with his saber. I'll ad another one. He's quick enough to dodge Kenobi's and Anakin's force attack. Vos dodged Dooku's; that makes him just as fast then. Valkorion is not as technically skilled as most jedi and he can speed-blitz most just going off his force-power so stop using skill as an excuse.

Quit doing mental gymnastics to excuse the fact Maul was canonically defeated by a blind padawan. Learn to read between the lines.

What force run?

Maul had him dead to rights but Tano saves him. Quit denying the rest or overshadowing it just because you're upset. Dooku was held captive by Hondo. That's ****ing embarrassing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The attack wasn't that fast. Skill isn't an excuse it is how it is. The text clearly says his technique is what makes him great. I tried telling you this months ago.

Maul had him dead to rights but Tano saves him. Quit denying the rest or overshadowing it just because you're upset. Dooku was held captive by Hondo. That's ****ing embarrassing.

Maul was defeated by his wounded prey. Even funnier now. I'll quit denying the rest of Maul's scenario once you stop doing it to Dooku.

LOL @ lowballing Dooku being captured by pirates, when Maul was about to get murdered by said pirates if his crippled brother didn't pick him up and run with him..

And Dooku didn't even have his Saber when that happened.. Dooku did the smart thing and escaped unscathed. Whereas Maul got his legs blown off 😂 needed his crippled bro to rescue him

I'm laughing at the Troll's butt hurt. Dooku is shown on screen moving faster in combat than Obi-Wan and Anakin on Oba Dia. Maul is shown on screen being stomped by a blind Padawan. Filoni clearly ranks both Dooku and Vader above Maul. Quit crying over it.

👆 ✅ Yes Thor

Originally posted by Kurk
Lol at the attack wasn't that fast. We can't perceive how fast force attacks are. They just happen. I showed you scenes where saber technique is out of the picture as he didn't it at all. He's dodging attacks with his body and responding with physical combat.

Maul was defeated by his wounded prey. Even funnier now. I'll quit denying the rest of Maul's scenario once you stop doing it to Dooku.

Maul would have defeated his wounded prey if Tano hadn't intervened. That's fantastic since there was nothing Kanan could do at the time. That wasn't the case when Ezra and Kanan ran into Vader. They won and knocked him on his ass.

Dooku submitted to pirates without a fight. Maul effectively evaded them and Kenobi with his brother wounded. Amazing showing.
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Originally posted by Darth Thor
LOL @ lowballing Dooku being captured by pirates, when Maul was about to get murdered by said pirates if his crippled brother didn't pick him up and run with him..

And Dooku didn't even have his Saber when that happened.. Dooku did the smart thing and escaped unscathed. Whereas Maul got his legs blown off 😂 needed his crippled bro to rescue him

I'm laughing at the Troll's butt hurt. Dooku is shown on screen moving faster in combat than Obi-Wan and Anakin on Oba Dia. Maul is shown on screen being stomped by a blind Padawan. Filoni clearly ranks both Dooku and Vader above Maul. Quit crying over it.

Dooku has force lightning and it's just Hondo and his men. He was saved by two Jedi. Without them he was screwed. He submits and accepts his fate just like when Sidious ordered he die. He didn't even object. A true loser right until the end.

Dooku uses greater technique and body mechanics. You can't process the scenes probably due to the fact you aren't educated. Falling off a cliff after being overconfident isn't stomping someone you emotionally invested troll. You're upset and still respond to my arguments though not directly to me because you're a coward and a shit debater. Maul also had him dead to rights but Tano had to save him. 😂

Who cares what filoni thinks you simpleton. Opinions vary. They aren't facts, dummy.

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Originally posted by chingchangwalla
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I'm on neither side really. Nothing to concede bud

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I'm on neither side really. Nothing to concede bud

You never had to respond. Just love the drama Quan?

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
You never had to respond. Just love the drama Quan?

You actually make me crack up. Are you one of those people who can't accept SW is fictional? What do ya look like Quan 🙂

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
You actually make me crack up. Are you one of those people who can't accept SW is fictional? What do ya look like Quan 🙂