Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaNo proof, but the fact that he didn't repeatedly spam that attack should mean either Revan is retarded during combat situations (which he isn't), or that he wasn't able to use it at will.
Proof?
I think Ant has a quote saying that Revan wasn't able to use it more then once, but I'm not sure.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaBecause that attack was > Vitiate, he wasn't able to defend against it.
Proof?And why would Citiate have lost to a guy who was only capable of blasting him back with his most powerful attack?
Just because your able to affect someone with your attacks doesn't mean you're capable of winning against them.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaDromund Kaas is a very potent force nexus.
We don't know to what extent he was amped. I imagine Vitiate's own personal power made any amp he recieved negligible to his overall capabilities.
Abilities don't change the extent to which someone is amped, no matter how powerful they are.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
No proof, but the fact that he didn't repeatedly spam that attack should mean either Revan is retarded during combat situations (which he isn't), or that he wasn't able to use it at will.I think Ant has a quote saying that Revan wasn't able to use it more then once, but I'm not sure.
I'm sure using a move which took active focus and extended concentration to employ drained him of energy and would not have been something he would have used a second time as it would have left him open to an attack by a now wary Vitiate. It doesn't mean he's incapable of doing it.
If it exists fair enough.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Yes.Quote? Because I've always assumed it's not proportional ( multiplier ) but a straight out bonus ( addition ).
Its a bonus, but the bonus gets bigger depending on how potent the nexus is.
Depending how powerful the nexus is, you could recieve the same amount of power you'd get from a multiplier just from the bonus in power alone.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaYeah, the same bonus.
Why is it common sense/common knowledge? Because nobody's ever challenged the idea before?I think the potency of a nexus does matter but I don't think it multiplies the power of the individual. Rather I think it adds about the same bonus to every Force user.
But what I'm saying is, the amp doesn't change from person to person.
Ok, for example, lets say Scourge is getting amped twice as much.
That would mean Vitiate is also getting amped twice as much.
Btw, the whole point you're arguing, ironically, is pointless, because you can't prove that its just a bonus rather then a multiplier, nor can I prove that it IS a multiplier.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Yeah, the same bonus.But what I'm saying is, the amp doesn't change from person to person.
Ok, for example, lets say Scourge is getting amped twice as much.
That would mean Vitiate is also getting amped twice as much.
Btw, the whole point you're arguing, ironically, is pointless, because you can't prove that its just a bonus rather then a multiplier, nor can I prove that it IS a multiplier.
That's what I said. I don't think the bonus is multiplicative. I think it's a straight add on. Like 1+1, 2+1, 3+1, etc.
Not 1x2, 2x2, 3x2, etc.
It's not pointless because I'm establishing that your claim is backed up by nothing more then your opinion. I never attempted to put an estimation to how much Vitiate was being amped but you did.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaI never actually put an estimation, all I said was "heavily amped".
That's what I said. I don't think the bonus is multiplicative. I think it's a straight add on. Like 1+1, 2+1, 3+1, etc.Not 1x2, 2x2, 3x2, etc.
It's not pointless because I'm establishing that your claim is backed up by nothing more then your opinion. I never attempted to put an estimation to how much Vitiate was being amped but you did.
Yeah, I know, but how much do the ones equal as far as nexuses go, because we've seen people get a massive boost from nexuses.
And your claim is back by nothing more then yours.