Novel Vitiate vs SoR Revan

Started by thesithmaster6 pages

Probably Revan.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
There is no reason to think that Revan Reborn, who was drugged heavily

We've been over this. Revan is confirmed to have purged the drugs from his system in the novel.

No it wasn't?

Post the quote. Regardless, while novel revan one-shottable fodder to vitiate, he did almost kill him. If the fight goes the same way revan should win as of air even if he's below vitiate

"He struggled to his feet, battling the mind-numbing effects of the chemicals coursing through his veins. Had his mind been able to focus, he could have purged them from his system." - Revan.

"Scourge stepped over to a medkit on the wall and yanked it open. He grabbed a hypodermic filled with a green luminescent fluid. “This will help,” he said, injecting it into Revan’s arm. “But it will take a few minutes.” - Revan.

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"Revan smiled. His mind felt like it was floating blissfully away, but he wasn’t sure if the euphoria was triggered by thoughts of his family or the drugs still working their way out of his system. " - Revan.

And I thought you were a Revan fan. 😛

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Post the quote. Regardless, while novel revan one-shottable fodder to vitiate, he did almost kill him. If the fight goes the same way revan should win as of air even if he's below vitiate

And why is that?

You do know what the word 'still' means, right? mmm

Sindy, your text basically concludes there were still drugs on his system...

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Yeah, as I said, there's no indication on when the drugs were out. Given he was consistently drugged for three years, probably a decent amount of time.

Originally posted by Selenial
You do know what the word 'still' means, right? mmm

And you're aware that there was a large gap in time between when Scourge, Meetra and Revan escaped the citadel and confronted Vitiate, right? A gap in time longer then the few minutes it would take for the serum to take effect.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Sindy, your text basically concludes there were still drugs on his system...

It concludes that it would take a few minutes for the serum to take effect. The gap in time between when Revan, Scourge and Meetra escaped the citadel and when they faced Vitiate is far longer then a few minutes.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
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Yeah, as I said, there's no indication on when the drugs were out. Given he was consistently drugged for three years, probably a decent amount of time.

A few minutes per Scourge. Even if there was still any effects remaining after the injection, Revan had plenty of time to focus his energies and purge the drugs from his system with the Force if needed per PoD and his own admission.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
It concludes that it would take a few minutes for the serum to take effect. The gap in time between when Revan, Scourge and Meetra escaped the citadel and when they faced Vitiate is far longer then a few minutes.

This is pure conjecture. There were enough drugs on his system that even someone as powerful as Revan couldn't even distinguish his own perception of reality clearly.

"Revan smiled. His mind felt like it was floating blissfully away, but he wasn’t sure if the euphoria was triggered by thoughts of his family or the drugs still working their way out of his system."

-Revan

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
This is pure conjecture.

No, it's what Scourge and the text ( in the case of how long they waited before attacking Vitiate ) states.

Also, the line of text you quoted directly states that it's his "euphoria" he wasn't sure of, not his perception of reality.

I'm not understanding the oppositions arguments here. You guys don't really think Revan would have spent his time; meditating, talking to Scourge about the Force and looking at pictures of Bastilla and his kid over purging Force suppressing drugs from his system, if they were still effecting him, when he's about to face a being he believes to be far more powerful then himself, do you?

I mean, I know we make fun of each other a lot. But I don't really think you guys are stupid. If you really believed that though, you'd leave me no choice but to come to that conclusion.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
And why is that?

Coz Revan's more powerful and hence faster as of sor

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
No, it's what Scourge and the text ( in the case of how long they waited before attacking Vitiate ) states.

Scourge says it should take a few minutes to help, not take a few minutes to completely nullify the effects of years worth of drugging.

Originally posted by Selenial
Scourge says it should take a few minutes to help, not take a few minutes to completely nullify the effects of years worth of drugging.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Even if there was still any effects remaining after the injection, Revan had plenty of time to focus his energies and purge the drugs from his system with the Force if needed per PoD and his own admission.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
You guys don't really think Revan would have spent his time; meditating, talking to Scourge about the Force and looking at pictures of Bastilla and his kid over purging Force suppressing drugs from his system, if they were still effecting him, when he's about to face a being he believes to be far more powerful then himself, do you?

I mean, I know we make fun of each other a lot. But I don't really think you guys are stupid. If you really believed that though, you'd leave me no choice but to come to that conclusion.

Unless you're suggesting he couldn't gather the focus to do so despite having been able to reflect Nyriss's lightning before they escaped the citadel in which case...

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I mean, I know we make fun of each other a lot. But I don't really think you guys are stupid. If you really believed that though, you'd leave me no choice but to come to that conclusion.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Coz Revan's more powerful and hence faster as of sor

And why is he more powerful when Vitiate's been draining him of Force energy for hundreds of years?