Novel Vitiate vs SoR Revan

Started by DarthAnt666 pages
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Lmao. MY explanation is out of context when the quote directly states that she believes it's a possibility that her instincts have become "deeply flawed" and then goes on to state in the next sentence that the disturbances she's sensing may be the figments of a deranged mind, yet your assumption that it's these disturbances that are causing her to go mad are completely reasonable? Right.

Oh, seems you completely misread what I was saying. I never stated Revan's disturbance in the Force made her go mad. It seems you completely misread me again - pathetic. I did, however, state it was affecting her to the point that she believed it could be affecting her mind, which is absolutely true. Let's revisit the quote:

"If I'm wrong, it means my instincts are now deeply flawed."

Self-explanatory. Beniko concludes that if someone isn't betraying her, something is fundamentally wrong with her due to having these suspicions. The question now is: why would something be fundamentally wrong with her?

"Considering the strange disturbance I sense that continues to pervade the Force, I worry that these concerns are merely the figments of a deranged mind."

Here's what you're not understanding. She's not questioning if the disturbance in the Force exists, she knows it exists. She actively mentions the disturbance in the Force throughout numerous conversations and believes in it with absolute certainty. Rather, she is saying that this disturbance may be the cause of what is wrong with her, since it may be affecting her instincts.

You, however, thought she was putting into question if the disturbance existed in the first placed, then suggested that she feared that because no one else sensed it, which, to me, is just beyond crazy since it's almost as if you read a completely unrelated quote.

Regardless, in conclusion, Beniko fears there is a traitor. She then says if she's wrong, something must be wrong with her instincts. She concludes that the disturbance in the Force may be the reason why her instincts are flawed. Thus, I was right to claim Lana believed that Revan's disturbance in the Force is making her mad, or, as she put it, having a deranged mind.

I disagree with your interpretation. I believe the "concerns" she's referencing are regarding the disturbance itself. Feel free to make a poll about it though if you want ( that's what you're good at ).

Again though, I have to go so I'll address the rest of your post later.

Yeah, and you're wrong. Lana consistently references the disturbances throughout numerous flashpoints. It's not something that she wonders exists or not - she knows it exists. Sith scholars are even actively talking about it and wondering what to do about it. After Arkous and Darok were killed, Lana was stunned, since the disturbance she sensed was still there. Then Revan arrived, and Lana recognized Revan as the source of the disturbance.

The entire point of this email was regarding a potential traitor - not Revan's disturbance. You're assuming she randomly mentions Revan's disturbance without linking it at all to the main idea of the conversation. Clearly there is a connection - the connection being being that the concerns being the potential traitor.

To translate, again:

"I hope this correspondence finds you well. As promised, I have been looking to substantiate the claims I made when last we spoke. The suspect did recently show an unexpected interest in the transport of a shipment of isotope-5 originating from Makeb, but no actions were taken to reroute or tamper with the delivery in any way, and it arrived safely at its destination on Darth Marr's flagship. The whole matter seems to be nothing more than an idle curiosity regarding the maneuverings of others. I want to assure you that this furtive pursuit grants me no satisfaction. If I'm right about my claims, I've lost a close ally. If I'm wrong, it means my instincts are now deeply flawed. Considering the strange disturbance I sense that continues to pervade the Force, I worry that these concerns are merely the figments of a deranged mind. All that stands clear to me now is that I must find the answer, no matter the consequence."

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So, the topic is about a "suspect" who seems to be threatening the shipment of Isotope-5 shipping. Lana Beniko believes there is a threat there, yet nothing happened. Nonetheless, she believes she is correct in her belief that, even though nothing was stolen, there is a threat lurking there. That is the main idea of the topic and is a continuation of a previous email discussing her concerns over this suspect. Now, Lana Beniko says that, if she's wrong about this, meaning if there is no one trying to damage the Empire, something must be wrong with her instincts. She concludes, then, that considering the disturbance in the Force she feels, her concerns, meaning the suspect since that is the main idea of the passage, may be just the figments of a deranged mind, meaning that it may be affecting her. Finally, she ends by saying she has to figure out if there trying is a traitor and/or spy within the Empire, since that is ultimately the main idea of these two emails and is what is bothering her, further demonstrating that these are her core concerns.

To further clarify, Beniko isn't putting doubt in the disturbance. She knows there is a disturbance. Other Sith have even emailed the protagonist also voicing her concerns.

"I know I've mentioned before a strange disturbance within the Force--a sort of writhing mass tied to Darth Arkous. I thought I'd use my connection to Arkous to seek out others tied to the disturbance--Revanites working against us from within. I found a few."

As you can see, Beniko doesn't fear that this disturbance is fake. She not only knows it's real, but is actively investigating it and yielding results.

Earlier, she states: "There's something in the Force that I've never felt before. It exists nowhere and everywhere at once."

Notice that she doesn't state there may be something. She states that there is something. She doesn't state it possibly exists, she states it exists. Etc.

While I'm sure you worked really hard to color code that, the only relevant part of your last 3 posts was this.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Sith scholars are even actively talking about it and wondering what to do about it.

Going to need the quote for that and proof that it occurred prior to Lana's message.