Nicholas Cage (Next) vs Captain America

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Nicholas Cage (Next) vs Captain America

In each fight Cage gets 2 min of prep before the bell. Cap is fighting to ko or kill (whichever is easiest) and doesn't know Cage's abilities.

Fight 1.
Nicholas Cage gets brass knuckles while Cap is in street clothes without shield. Fight starts 15ft apart. Who wins?

Fight 2.
Cage gets a 9mm fully loaded handgun. He knows how and is willing to use it (even to kill). Cap gets standard equipment. Fight starts 50m away from each other.

Who wins?

Cap wins.

cap round 1
cage round 2

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap wins.
Why do you think Cap wins in scenario 1?
Why do you think he wins in scenario 2?

Because I've seen the movies.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Because I've seen the movies.

I've seen the movies too.
Deduce from the movies why Cap should be able to beat Cage in both scenarios.

Mr X vs Quicksilver.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why do you think Cap wins in scenario 1?
Why do you think he wins in scenario 2?

Cap has way too much of a physical advantage and technique for cage to keep up even with his power.

Cage in both.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Mr X vs Quicksilver.
Cage has dodged bullets. Thus the bullets aren't quicksilver.

He didn't dodge bullets. He sent out copies to take the bullets so he'd know how to move. But that was all while trying to save Liz, so he doesn't have that level of power normally according to the film.

Originally posted by h1a8
Cage has dodged bullets. Thus the bullets aren't quicksilver.

Post a clip of that feat so everyone can see how badly you're lying

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post a clip of that feat so everyone can see how badly you're lying

https://youtu.be/RC5ZiK6o7uQ

Originally posted by KingD19
He didn't dodge bullets. He sent out copies to take the bullets so he'd know how to move. But that was all while trying to save Liz, so he doesn't have that level of power normally according to the film.
There were no copies. Those were future visions. He corrected the movement each time he saw he got shot. He can do the same for a punch (which is slower).

You do realize that you just posted a clip that proves his powers didn't make him any faster, right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You do realize that you just posted a clip that proves his powers didn't make him any faster, right?
Irrelevant. He can use his powers to not get by a bullet. thus he can use them to not get hit by anything slower. Cap will only tag Cage's future visions of himself.

Originally posted by h1a8
Irrelevant. He can use his powers to not get by a bullet. thus he can use them to not get hit by anything slower. Cap will only tag Cage's future visions of himself.

Moving out of the way before a bullet is fired isn't a speed feat.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Moving out of the way before a bullet is fired isn't a speed feat.
of course it isn't. I never claimed it was.

Originally posted by h1a8
of course it isn't. I never claimed it was.

Then we are back to Mr X vs Quicksilver.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Then we are back to Mr X vs Quicksilver.
No we are not. Cage can see the future, X can read minds. X has only one chance to dodge while Cage has hundreds if not thousands of chances to dodge. Also Quicksilver is far faster than X than Cap is faster than Cage. Quicksilver is many times faster than a bullet (even faster than lightning) where Cap is many times slower than a bullet.

Yes we are, Cage doesn't have superspeed, he can only dodge at normal human speed, which is slower than Captain America.