Nicholas Cage (Next) vs Captain America

Started by Silent Master11 pages

He might be able to see what's coming, but he doesn't have the strength, skill or speed to actually stop it for long.

We see him use his powers against a regular guy, and while he dodges everything. The guy is slow, sloppy, and has no skill or technique. If he tried that against Cap, he'd dodge a few hits, but no way he could keep it up against Steve.

Originally posted by KingD19
We see him use his powers against a regular guy, and while he dodges everything. The guy is slow, sloppy, and has no skill or technique. If he tried that against Cap, he'd dodge a few hits, but no way he could keep it up against Steve.
He needs to counter attack. Cage can't keep dodging and parrying. If the brass knuckles have little effect then Cap wins. I believe the brass will have a decent effect (draw blood too).

Cap is more skilled and faster, he's not getting hit.

Are people really this dense?

Nick's character has the ability to see 2 full minutes into his own future. Did anyone here even watched that filmed?

It doesn't matter if Cap is stronger, faster, more durable, Nick's character will see anything that Steve does because oh his ability to see the future.

In the movie, we've seen Nick's future self getting killed left and right, and everytime one die, he sees were to step.

The only reason Steve wins the first round is because of his stamina. At the end of the day, Nick's character is still human.

But in the second round, Nick's put a bullet to Steve's brain.

Seeing into the future doesn't really help when you're slower and less skilled and Cap has plenty of feats of blocking bullets.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Seeing into the future doesn't really help when you're slower and less skilled and Cap has plenty of feats of blocking bullets.
Cap aim blocks bullets. Most of the time he's shown just to put his shield up and hope they don't aim for his legs. In fight 1, he doesn't have a shield. So what you said is irrelevant.

You don't have to be of equal speed to block an attack. It only takes a fraction of the speed of the attack in order to dodge, duck, bob and weave, parry, or block it.

Cage can counter miss attacks with punches. It all depends on how much Cage can effect Cap.

Cap is faster and more skilled than Cris, any counters or attacks that Cris tries are either going to be blocked or dodged.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap is faster and more skilled than Cris, any counters or attacks that Cris tries are either going to be blocked or dodged.
Counters can't be blocked or dodged. It would go against the definition.

Originally posted by h1a8
Counters can't be blocked or dodged. It would go against the definition.

LOL!!!!

Are you saying you've never seen someone counter a counter attack before?

Come on dude.

Originally posted by h1a8
He needs to counter attack. Cage can't keep dodging and parrying. If the brass knuckles have little effect then Cap wins. I believe the brass will have a decent effect (draw blood too).

Lol ultron wasn't drawing blood from cap on top of that truck, cage certainly isnt.

It took Bucky several full force shots to the nose to just barely split it.

Re: Nicholas Cage (Next) vs Captain America

1. Cap 10/10

2. Cap more often than not I would think but Cage can win here too imo

Originally posted by wallman77
Lol ultron wasn't drawing blood from cap on top of that truck, cage certainly isnt.
That's because Ultron didn't hit Cap in the face with blunt force. That Ultron was weak as shit. His blasts didn't do much to Cap's Chest Armor.

I think the brass knuckles will damage and stun Cap significantly. Unless someone can show Cap getting hit in the head with a blunt force object of equal or greater magnitude where it does little to nothing.

You mean like getting hit by Bucky's metal arm or Loki? maybe if you'd watched the movies you'd be aware of these feats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You mean like getting hit by Bucky's metal arm or Loki? maybe if you'd watched the movies you'd be aware of these feats.

Learn to read. ..."does little to nothing".
Loki never struck Cap in the face

It's sad that you think that you've made a point, but even Bucky >>> normal human with brass knuckles and Cap took multiple hits to the face without being ko'd.

Cris has zero chance of ko'ing Cap.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's sad that you think that you've made a point, but even Bucky >>> normal human with brass knuckles and Cap took multiple hits to the face without being ko'd.

Cris has zero chance of ko'ing Cap.

I disagree. Bucking normal punches = human level punches. Show me some punch feats to prove me wrong.