Nicholas Cage (Next) vs Captain America

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Then post feats of Cris landing multiple hits on someone with Cap's speed and skill.
I don't have too. Cap moves with normal human speed visually. The guy in the bar moved as fast as Cap visually. And Chris casually messed him up.

Prove that sed guy was as fast and skilled as Cap.

Originally posted by Robtard
As Rogers said in CA:TFA and CA:CW, "I can do this all day."

Pretty much agree with both you and VD on this. Cap likely wins no. 1 for a majority but loses no. 2. Though, I'd just like to point out, while I understand the point you were making with the quote, and stamina is certainly something Cap could use in this fight; he said that line in CW while seemingly out of breath, tired and dazed. Hardly what I'd call validity to the statement. He clearly wouldn't be able to do that all day.

He was fighting Iron Man. I don't believe he'd be in the same condition if he had been taking punches from a normal man.

Completely agree with you. That doesn't change the fact Big Rob, that has made such a statement and truly wouldn't be able to do that all day. Nothing more nothing less.

I don't think we were supposed to take the three scenes where he said that as literal. I personally saw it as humor; I believe you did too.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think we were supposed to take the three scenes where he said that as literal. I personally saw it as humor; I believe you did too.

Hmmm humor... I thought of it more like false bravado and not wanting to admit he might have bitten off more than he could chew. I really don't see it as a comedic moment. The set up, the delivery, the circumstances, none of it seemed humorous really. I guess it could be in a way, and I just didn't see it that way. You're right in that I didn't take it literally. In the end though, your point stands and would be a factor in the fight. Especially in no. 1

Originally posted by h1a8
Are you crazy or blind? Cap didn't get hit. Can't you see? He dodged.

So when cap jumped off the sliding car and yelled come on at the time stated, he didn't get punched in the face. Ok so blatant trolling.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove that sed guy was as fast and skilled as Cap.
The guy punches as fast as Cap visually. He's not as skilled as Cap though.

Originally posted by wallman77
So when cap jumped off the sliding car and yelled come on at the time stated, he didn't get punched in the face. Ok so blatant trolling.
No, he didn't get punched in the face. He ducked the punch. If he would have gotten hit then he would have got sent flying back, unless Ultron threw a very weak punch.

Originally posted by h1a8
The guy punches as fast as Cap visually. He's not as skilled as Cap though.

Prove that Cris can land hits on someone as fast and skilled as Cap.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove that Cris can land hits on someone as fast and skilled as Cap.
Chris can lands hits on anyone he can dodge. Having the speed to dodge automatically gives the speed to counter or intercept.

Once Cap misses, he is open to an attack since his body is out of position. His recovery speed is exactly what we see visually in the movie (slow).

Chris can intercept Cap, hitting Cap before Cap hits him. A stop hit.

Finally, Chris can land attacks by blocking. Each block is the attack. Chris blocks with the knuckles which causes damage to Cap.

Prove he can hit someone that is as fast and skilled as Cap.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove he can hit someone that is as fast and skilled as Cap.

I did. Cap is not that much faster than the guy in the bar (punching speed) yet Chris CASUALLY embarrassed him.

Chris will seemingly do the same to Cap.

Your opinion isn't proof. Now, prove that Cris can hit someone that is as fast and skilled as Cap.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your opinion isn't proof. Now, prove that Cris can hit someone that is as fast and skilled as Cap.
I did. And why you keep saying "as fast as Cap" when he isn't visually faster than the guy in the bar (punching speed).

Also you never addressed the point I made about blocking Cap with the knuckles, making each block an actual attack.

Do you know the difference between opinion and proof?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Do you know the difference between opinion and proof?

about blocking Cap with the knuckles, making each block an actual attack.

Since you didn't answer I'm just going to have to assume you don't know the difference between an opinion and proof.

Originally posted by h1a8
No, he didn't get punched in the face. He ducked the punch. If he would have gotten hit then he would have got sent flying back, unless Ultron threw a very weak punch.

Ur an idiot, cap jumped up on the truck, block a punch with his shield and took one in the jaw that dropped him to his knee.