Strength Ratings

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, he didn't. He stabbed King Shark and that's it.

Superman twoshotting King Shark isn't that impressive for King Shark. And Superman classified is Byrne Superman who was a lot weaker than usual and even then oneshotted King Shark.

He didn't struggle. He defeated Orm casually after getting out of his chokehold.

Not with strength, he wasn't. You don't hold back your strength to the point you look weaker than someone else.

Never did.

I'd like to see where he stated he was holding his strength.

He wasn't a threat to Superboy ever since he was upgraded in Teen Titans by Geoff.

Aquaman wasn't shown taking any attack from Despero. Superboy has already fought Despero and did far better than Aquaman.

And that was a weaker Superboy who was already stronger than Aquaman.

No, it is not.

That was a plot point in early Superboy comics. And it is not him being amped.

Read Superboy 6 and come back. Its a whole issue of fight so can't post it here.

Bottom line, even early Superboy was stronger than Aquaman and since then he has been upgraded and far stronger than Aquaman.

Deal with it.

You have a tendency to change stuff in comics to fit it how you like.

How is Despero fighting three different characters and Superboy happening to be one of them comparable to Aquaman fighting Despero one on one and forcing Despero to resort to Telepathy.. something suggested would of been done if Despero couldn't physically overwhelm him..

King Shark didn't get oneshotted by Superman in Confidential. Superman started the fight with a punch which didn't even knock out Nanue and then later after Nanue was making him scream Supes tossed him. That's not being oneshotted.. yet comic instances change when you decide to word them..

Superman showed signs of struggling against Orm.. Orm was choking him which had Supes looking like he was struggling and Orm took a punch from him as well. Noone lost the fight though.. Superman tried to convert Orm to Boy scoutism Orm wasn't interested and left.

Holding back means Holding Back..

Superman knows what's going on when he ask Aquaman to hold back Superboy
http://m.imgur.com/j3hC3u3?r

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
You have a tendency to change stuff in comics to fit it how you like.

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How is Despero fighting three different characters and Superboy happening to be one of them comparable to Aquaman fighting Despero one on one and forcing Despero to resort to Telepathy.. something suggested would of been done if Despero couldn't physically overwhelm him..

Despero used telepathy on Superboy from the start. He is just that powerful to shrug it off and draw blood from Despero with a punch which Arthur never did.

King Shark didn't get oneshotted by Superman in Confidential. Superman started the fight with a punch which didn't even knock out Nanue and then later after Nanue was making him scream Supes tossed him. That's not being oneshotted.. yet comic instances change when you decide to word them..

King Shark didn't make him scream. He was just grunting after King Shark hit him in the wall.

And yes, its basically getting oneshotted when Superman casually threw him away.

Superman showed signs of struggling against Orm.. Orm was choking him which had Supes looking like he was struggling and Orm took a punch from him as well.

It was one panel of Superman being in a choke hold and then oneshotting Orm like nothing.

Noone lost the fight though.. Superman tried to convert Orm to Boy scoutism Orm wasn't interested and left.

Yes, after beating the shit out of him.

Holding back means Holding Back..

He never said he was holding back his strength. Point me where he did.

Superman knows what's going on when he ask Aquaman to hold back Superboy
http://m.imgur.com/j3hC3u3?r

That he has a hook which can drag him down? That has nothing to do with strength.

Kon is far stronger than Aquaman. Deal with it.

So this thread was never about strength rankings... Good to know.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Despero used telepathy on Superboy from the start. He is just that powerful to shrug it off and draw blood from Despero with a punch which Arthur never did.

King Shark didn't make him scream. He was just grunting after King Shark hit him in the wall.

And yes, its basically getting oneshotted when Superman casually threw him away.

It was one panel of Superman being in a choke hold and then oneshotting Orm like nothing.

Yes, after beating the shit out of him.

He never said he was holding back his strength. Point me where he did.

That he has a hook which can drag him down? That has nothing to do with strength.

Kon is far stronger than Aquaman. Deal with it.

It's interesting to see how you distort things to fit in the format you want.

Nowhere in the Orm vs Superman fight did Superman "beat the shit" out of Orm.
http://m.imgur.com/a/eHhUS
Sure Superman sent Orm backwards with a hit, but that's not "beating the shit out of" otherwise New52 Aquaman has "beat the shit out of" Superman. Orm by your standard of hurt isn't bleeding when Superman hit him all that happened is bubbles came out of his mouth.

Despero's hypnotism is from his eye, Telepathy is a mental thing from the mind..

Two hits were shown in the King Shark vs Superman fight. Oneshotting would be only using one hit in the entire fight. If you consider the toss a hit then that would be 2. There's also nothing to suggest KS was oneshotted he could of just been BFR'd.

Are you honestly suggesting strength isn't involved when dragging someone down....? Are you suggesting the hook magically brought Kon down and it wasn't the strength behind it? Not to mention their going to different ways Kon is flying forward and Aquaman is pulling back. So that's resistance from both.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So this thread was never about strength rankings... Good to know.

It was Ahbi's attempt to avoid stuff he hasn't answered in a previous thread. It's interesting to see the comics interpretation of an event compared to what Ahbi gets out of the comic.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
It's interesting to see how you distort things to fit in the format you want.

Haha, right. Orm was making Superman struggle isn't distorting things.

Nowhere in the Orm vs Superman fight did Superman "beat the shit" out of Orm.
http://m.imgur.com/a/eHhUS
Sure Superman sent Orm backwards with a hit, but that's not "beating the shit out of" otherwise New52 Aquaman has "beat the shit out of" Superman.

Superman subdued Orm straight up after getting out of his choke hold. Aquaman cheapshotted Superman.

Kon beat the shit out of Arthur though.

Orm by your standard of hurt isn't bleeding when Superman hit him all that happened is bubbles came out of his mouth.

I'm not talking about bleeding.

Despero's hypnotism is from his eye, Telepathy is a mental thing from the mind..

He used his third eye at Aquaman and J'onn as well. Its not hypnotism at all.

http://imgur.com/a/oTvfH

Two hits were shown in the King Shark vs Superman fight. Oneshotting would be only using one hit in the entire fight. If you consider the toss a hit then that would be 2. There's also nothing to suggest KS was oneshotted he could of just been BFR'd.

Yes, and nowhere did King Shark made Superman scream as you said it.

But aren't you supposed to show a scan where Aquaman dismissed King Shark? Why are we comparing Superman to Aquaman now

Are you honestly suggesting strength isn't involved when dragging someone down....? Are you suggesting the hook magically brought Kon down and it wasn't the strength behind it? Not to mention their going to different ways Kon is flying forward and Aquaman is pulling back. So that's resistance from both.

His flying isn't based on strength. So no, it doesn't.

So where are all these strength feats which show Arthur being stronger?

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
It was Ahbi's attempt to avoid stuff he hasn't answered in a previous thread. It's interesting to see the comics interpretation of an event compared to what Ahbi gets out of the comic.

Rich coming from you. Seriously.

Originally posted by riv6672
Sure why not?

Dont bother answering, thats a rhetorical question (i wont be back in here), i wont drag out my opinion on the matter for 7 pages.
I don't spend nearly as much time in your threads as you do in mine. 🙂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, right. Orm was making Superman struggle isn't distorting things.

Superman subdued Orm straight up after getting out of his choke hold. Aquaman cheapshotted Superman.

Kon beat the shit out of Arthur though.

I'm not talking about bleeding.

He used his third eye at Aquaman and J'onn as well. Its not hypnotism at all.

http://imgur.com/a/oTvfH

Yes, and nowhere did King Shark made Superman scream as you said it.

But aren't you supposed to show a scan where Aquaman dismissed King Shark? Why are we comparing Superman to Aquaman now

His flying isn't based on strength. So no, it doesn't.

So where are all these strength feats which show Arthur being stronger?

He didn't subdue anyone, he hit Orm and then lectured him. Subduing in terms of fighting is generally represented as restraining. Superman didn't do anything of the such to Orm. He talked to him Orm said whatever and left.

Kon really didn't. Arthur was still conscious after fighting Kon, Kon gets put down for panel time when Arthur gets back.

Propulsion is moving forward. If I'm moving forwards and you pull me back that means your exerting greater force.. I don't know what kind of logic your trying to throw around with flying isn't based in strength..

Capital Red letters of Superman screaming
http://m.imgur.com/xIwSwC7
Characters have been rammed into things and made less notice of it. Grayson went through a motorcycle and didn't scream as loud as Superman is on that panel.

I did show Aquaman dismissing KS you just decided not to accept it. And that's with the fact all of Aquaman's rogues were there as well.

You got me on the Despero instance.

Aquaman lifting feats like the Sub-Diego street put him above 100 tons and that's more then anything I've seen Kon do in any continuity.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
When you have a grunting expression because your put in a hold I'd call that struggling. If he wasnt he wouldn't be artistically drawn as such..

Or Superman had trouble breathing due to being underwater as shown in the art. He wasn't struggling against his strength.

He didn't subdue anyone, he hit Orm and then lectured him. Subduing in terms of fighting is generally represented as restraining. Superman didn't do anything of the such to Orm. He talked to him Orm said whatever and left.

After subduing him. Orm was trying to attack him but then out of kindness didn't?

Kon really didn't. Arthur was still conscious after fighting Kon,

Yes, because Kon stopped fighting back after overpowering Arthur completely.

Kon gets put down for panel time when Arthur gets back.

Because he damn near drowned. I like how Dolphin and Garth's help is overlooked.

Propulsion is moving forward. If I'm moving forwards and you pull me back that means your exerting greater force.. I don't know what kind of logic your trying to throw around with flying isn't based in strength..

I didn't know Kon flies using his strength. Can you elaborate about this? Because Batman has pulled down Superman using simple ropes. That doesn't means he was as strong as Superman.

Capital Red letters of Superman screaming
http://m.imgur.com/xIwSwC7

That's called a grunt.

Characters have been rammed into things and made less notice of it. Grayson went through a motorcycle and didn't scream as loud as Superman is on that panel.

That's not a scream. But if you want to compare Superman to Aquaman and King Shark, we can create another thread about it.

I did show Aquaman dismissing KS you just decided not to accept it. And that's with the fact all of Aquaman's rogues were there as well.

You showed Aquaman using a spear to impale King Shark? How is that dismissing King Shark?

You got me on the Despero instance.

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Aquaman lifting feats like the Sub-Diego street put him above 100 tons and that's more then anything I've seen Kon do in any continuity.

Is that so? Aquaman lifted a city block? New 52 Superboy lifted an entire city and threw it in the space.

And even old school Kon can lift entire castles.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Or Superman had trouble breathing due to being underwater as shown in the art. He wasn't struggling against his strength.

After subduing him. Orm was trying to attack him but then out of kindness didn't?

Yes, because Kon stopped fighting back after overpowering Arthur completely.

Because he damn near drowned. I like how Dolphin and Garth's help is overlooked.

I didn't know Kon flies using his strength. Can you elaborate about this? Because Batman has pulled down Superman using simple ropes. That doesn't means he was as strong as Superman.

That's called a grunt.

That's not a scream. But if you want to compare Superman to Aquaman and King Shark, we can create another thread about it.

You showed Aquaman using a spear to impale King Shark? How is that dismissing King Shark?

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Is that so? Aquaman lifted a city block? New 52 Superboy lifted an entire city and threw it in the space.

And even old school Kon can lift entire castles.

I didn't write the story.. logically why would Orm even listen to what Superman had to say.. wasn't the first time he attacked Superman wasnt the last in history. Only modern time in a Superman book.

He didn't overpower Aquaman at all that's more of you misconstruing what's shown in a book. He no sold one attack. Later to be phased from hits from people weaker then Aquaman. Throwing that in since you want to bring up Dolphin and Garth like it's something to brag about. Whereas ignore Tim and Bart in the Despero instance.

Show me Batman pulling Superman down using rope, when Superman is flying in a different direction and Batman is pulling the opposite direction.. logically if the rope is strong enough Batman should be going on a trip by flight.

Pretty exclamatory and bolded Grunt...

I thought we were talking about Post-Crisis characters why is New52 Superboy being brought up lol..

How is a castle bigger then something with several buildings on it? As well as being on the sea floor with cars and etc. It's worse given its not pure strength since the scan implies he's using his TK to help.

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Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I didn't write the story.. logically why would Orm even listen to what Superman had to say.. wasn't the first time he attacked Superman wasnt the last in history. Only modern time in a Superman book.

What's that has to the fact that Superman pretty casually overpowered him?

Look, Aquaman is struggling against Hawkman.

He didn't overpower Aquaman at all that's more of you misconstruing what's shown in a book. He no sold one attack. Later to be phased from hits from people weaker then Aquaman. Throwing that in since you want to bring up Dolphin and Garth like it's something to brag about. Whereas ignore Tim and Bart in the Despero instance.

He did overpower Aquaman.

He was damn near unconscious when Garth and Dolphin tag teamed him.

I never said Kon was stronger than Despero as you're claiming Arthur is stronger than kon.

Show me Batman pulling Superman down using rope, when Superman is flying in a different direction and Batman is pulling the opposite direction.. logically if the rope is strong enough Batman should be going on a trip by flight.

On phone so can't access my comics.

But no, pulling someone down isn't being stronger than someone.

Pretty exclamatory and bolded Grunt...

Yes, after which Superman pretty casually threw him away.

You can make a thread with Aquaman, Ocean Master and King Shark vs Superman and see who wins if you want.

I thought we were talking about Post-Crisis characters why is New52 Superboy being brought up lol..

Because you said that Arthur has better feats in both continuties?

How is a castle bigger then something with several buildings on it? As well as being on the sea floor with cars and etc. It's worse given its not pure strength since the scan implies he's using his TK to help.

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Because the street he lifted had no buildings?

And Superboy didn't had superstrength in those days. His TTK was his strength.

BTW, here is a better feat. Eradicator throws a mountain at Superman and Superboy. Both break out of it with no issues.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16777504/eradvssuperman_5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16777505/eradvssuperman_6.jpg.html
http://i.imgur.com/9q6UQ0K.jpg

Oh and he overpowered Power Girl and an alternate Supergirl at the same time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What's that has to the fact that Superman pretty casually overpowered him?

Look, Aquaman is struggling against Hawkman.

He did overpower Aquaman.

He was damn near unconscious when Garth and Dolphin tag teamed him.

I never said Kon was stronger than Despero as you're claiming Arthur is stronger than kon.

On phone so can't access my comics.

But no, pulling someone down isn't being stronger than someone.

Yes, after which Superman pretty casually threw him away.

You can make a thread with Aquaman, Ocean Master and King Shark vs Superman and see who wins if you want.

Because you said that Arthur has better feats in both continuties?

Because the street he lifted had no buildings?

And Superboy didn't had superstrength in those days. His TTK was his strength.

BTW, here is a better feat. Eradicator throws a mountain at Superman and Superboy. Both break out of it with no issues.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16777504/eradvssuperman_5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16777505/eradvssuperman_6.jpg.html
http://i.imgur.com/9q6UQ0K.jpg

Oh and he overpowered Power Girl and an alternate Supergirl at the same time.

Lol in the comic you presented Black Canary accomplished what Superboy did..

Alternate characters are featless for the most part we don't give them feats of their main counterpart or feats from different universes just because name value. Would explain your confusion though.

Aquaman struggling against Hawkman?
Not what the scan really shows but by that logic
Superboy struggling against Herald.

Besides weren't you the same person trying to pair up Hawkman with Black Adam at an earlier moment. You change your stance as much as Hillary it seems.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-626173-hawkman-vs-black-panther.html

So a tsunami almost made Superboy unconscious and we're arguing he's greater then someone who can free fall from Space to Sea level at the speed of faster then light squared..

I love how your trying to play TTK as a strength feat.. By this logic when Grifter or Jean use TK their physical strength feats..

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Lol in the comic you presented Black Canary accomplished what Superboy did..

Uh, what? What are you talking about?

Alternate characters are featless for the most part we don't give them feats of their main counterpart or feats from different universes just because name value. Would explain your confusion though.

What? That Supergirl was supposed to be PC Supergirl and was ridiculously strong.

Just let me know if you haven't read a comic.

Aquaman struggling against Hawkman?

Yes, just like Superman struggling against Orm, right?

Not what the scan really shows but by that logic
Superboy struggling against Herald.

Who is Herald? Superboy is fighting SBP there.

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Besides weren't you the same person trying to pair up Hawkman with Black Adam at an earlier moment. You change your stance as much as Hillary it seems.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-626173-hawkman-vs-black-panther.html

Hawkman is an absolute beast in damage soak. But in that comic he was koed by Batman.

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So a tsunami almost made Superboy unconscious and we're arguing he's greater then someone who can free fall from Space to Sea level at the speed of faster then light squared..

Yes, he can't breath underwater.

Arthur wasn't thrown at lightspeed. His personality merged with his older self. Did you even read the comic?

I love how your trying to play TTK as a strength feat.. By this logic when Grifter or Jean use TK their physical strength feats..

His TTK is his strength. Until he was retconned as being half Kryptonian by Geoff Johns in Teen Titans.

Do you even know the character you're arguing against?

Any actual reason to leave this open?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Uh, what? What are you talking about?

What? That Supergirl was supposed to be PC Supergirl and was ridiculously strong.

Just let me know if you haven't read a comic.

Yes, just like Superman struggling against Orm, right?

Who is Herald? Superboy is fighting SBP there.

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Hawkman is an absolute beast in damage soak. But in that comic he was koed by Batman.

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Yes, he can't breath underwater.

Arthur wasn't thrown at lightspeed. His personality merged with his older self. Did you even read the comic?

His TTK is his strength. Until he was retconned as being half Kryptonian by Geoff Johns in Teen Titans.

Do you even know the character you're arguing against?

Durability doesn't equate to strength and the difference to Hawkman grappling Aquaman compared to Ocean Master grappling Superman, is first move. Hawkman's first move on Arthur was a grapple. One that didn't last. Ocean Master attacked Superman with his scepter before he even got him in the grapple hold. Same with KS powerslamming Supes that wasn't the first attack.

Werent you a minute ago using Bald Superboy to suggest how powerful Superboy was. Yet it's invalid to use Herald who is a human grappling one of these Superboy's and Offspring another.

Herald is Malcolm Duncan other codenames are Guardian, Vox, Hornblower.

Selectional circumstance biast is what you suffer from.

In the same comic Hawkman got KO'D by Batman, Despero beat up J'onn, was struggling against Arthur, and stalemates with Supes. And this is stuff going beyond a panel.

Black Manta can't breath underwater and a tsunami wasn't going to make him unconscious which is what your suggesting it did to Superboy not the hits themselve.

TK isn't strength.

Aquaman felt the impact of his body hitting the water. I read rock of ages. What Wally said was that they're bodies were accelerating so fast that they were becoming pure light information. That doesn't change the Fact that when he hit he fell at that much force. Theirs a reason the impact was brought up.

His "personality" honestly where the hell do you get this stuff.

"We arrive here" is what the comic said as them

http://m.imgur.com/a/2TdcX

Originally posted by -Pr-
Any actual reason to leave this open?

I'd beg you don't, cause I'm curious to see where he's going with alot of the stuff he's spouting.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Durability doesn't equate to strength and the difference to Hawkman grappling Aquaman compared to Ocean Master grappling Superman, is first move.

What? They are both appearing to choke Superman/Aquaman.

Hawkman's first move on Arthur was a grapple. One that didn't last.

Aquaman didn't overpower Hawkman. Despero attacked him and ripped out his wings.

Ocean Master attacked Superman with his scepter before he even got him in the grapple hold. Same with KS powerslamming Supes that wasn't the first attack.

That being the first attack we see on Superman. Not that being the first attack means its somehow durability feat.

Werent you a minute ago using Bald Superboy to suggest how powerful Superboy was. Yet it's invalid to use Herald who is a human grappling one of these Superboy's and Offspring another.

Superboy wasn't grappling with power girl and Supergirl. He was choking them out.

And Herald/Offspring were just thrown away if you've actually read the comic.

Herald is Malcolm Duncan other codenames are Guardian, Vox, Hornblower.

Selectional circumstance biast is what you suffer from.

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You just said Hawkman choking Aquaman is different than Ocean Master trying to choke Superman.

You don't get to talk about picking and choosing.

In the same comic Hawkman got KO'D by Batman, Despero beat up J'onn, was struggling against Arthur, and stalemates with Supes. And this is stuff going beyond a panel.

We don't see Despero tagging Aquaman. But does that somehow negates Hawkman choking Aquaman?

Black Manta can't breath underwater and a tsunami wasn't going to make him unconscious which is what your suggesting it did to Superboy not the hits themselve.

Black Manta has a suit which protects him. That's not suggesting. Its what was stated in the comic.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29973870/RCO016_1468988835.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29973871/RCO017_1468988835.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29973872/RCO018_1468988835.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29973878/RCO019_1468988835.jpg.html

The fact that Aquaman needed whales, Garth and Dolphin to stand a chance against Superboy and you think he was stronger than Superboy?

TK isn't strength.

Not TK. Tactile TK. Read about it.

Aquaman felt the impact of his body hitting the water. I read rock of ages. What Wally said was that they're bodies were accelerating so fast that they were becoming pure light information. That doesn't change the Fact that when he hit he fell at that much force. Theirs a reason the impact was brought up.

No, he didn't. They were akin to ghosts and took possession of their future selves.

You seriously don't know how to read, do you?

His "personality" honestly where the hell do you get this stuff.
"We arrive here" is what the comic said as them

http://m.imgur.com/a/2TdcX

Haha, you sure know how to hide a lot of context.

They arrived there as ghosts. Hence why Kyle arrived in the body of a parademon and Wally arrived in the body of fat human who couldn't even run.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Any actual reason to leave this open?

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I'd beg you don't, cause I'm curious to see where he's going with alot of the stuff he's spouting.

This is just gold.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What? They are both appearing to choke Superman/Aquaman.

Aquaman didn't overpower Hawkman. Despero attacked him and ripped out his wings.

That being the first attack we see on Superman. Not that being the first attack means its somehow durability feat.

Superboy wasn't grappling with power girl and Supergirl. He was choking them out.

And Herald/Offspring were just thrown away if you've actually read the comic.

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You just said Hawkman choking Aquaman is different than Ocean Master trying to choke Superman.

You don't get to talk about picking and choosing.

We don't see Despero tagging Aquaman. But does that somehow negates Hawkman choking Aquaman?

Black Manta has a suit which protects him. That's not suggesting. Its what was stated in the comic.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29973870/RCO016_1468988835.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29973871/RCO017_1468988835.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29973872/RCO018_1468988835.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29973878/RCO019_1468988835.jpg.html

The fact that Aquaman needed whales, Garth and Dolphin to stand a chance against Superboy and you think he was stronger than Superboy?

Not TK. Tactile TK. Read about it.

No, he didn't. They were akin to ghosts and took possession of their future selves.

You seriously don't know how to read, do you?

Haha, you sure know how to hide a lot of context.

They arrived there as ghosts. Hence why Kyle arrived in the body of a parademon and Wally arrived in the body of fat human who couldn't even run.

Different in the fact that initial strike. I can give an initial strike being something that's done offguard. So yeah there's a difference between Ocean Master at second attack being a grapple. Compared to Hawkman first grappling Aquaman.

The Whales created a tsunami that flooded Hawaii. According to you Superboy would of died because of a tsunami something that Black Manta with a suit like you said has the durability to take.

Speaking of Powergirl where's her superior strength feats? That wasn't Superboy according to you though. The real Superboy was getting beat up by Prime.

The ghost thing doesn't suggest he didn't take force of his light body landing there's a reason why he felt the impact when his light form crashed. That's why the impact in the scan is even mentioned. If there wasn't no force involved in the fall there'd be no reason of bringing up the impact.

I know how to read. I just prefer not to read a bunch of excuses and bull. 💃