Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Lel @ Urs thinking that being maimed and decapitated by an emo kid is better than beating the most powerful sith of all time then being betrayed and only dying to the fall, not the lightning of the most powerful sith ever 🙂
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
We all are tho.
But we're not all Dark Jedi assassins with twin lightsabers, are we? That's the best way to live with cancer 🙂
lol @ you thinking that Mace screaming like a ***** after getting just one hand cut off > Dooku holding back the pain after having both hands cut off.
Originally posted by SunRazer
It's a direct resurrection of him from TPM Maul. Why would there be any disparity in combative prowess? If such a thing exists, then it is your burden to prove it, not mine to disprove what doesn't exist.Again, based on what? If it's a direct resurrection of TPM Maul, what "logic" would dictate that Maul had grown stronger?
He was standing away from them. In the film, you clearly see him getting into a battle-ready position as soon as Sidious lands, even before Agen was impaled. Since Sidious spun away from Mace to strike Saesee next, it's obvious that Mace couldn't have followed up on Agen's death. Of course Sidious is faster, but the film doesn't show a blitz-tier difference.
Because my interpretation's correct. I don't want to sound pompous, but that's simply what the text says.
"Perhaps only Mace Windu would have been his equal". Please, explain the words that prove that Mace might not have been his equal. "Perhaps"? That's in accordance with "only", which results in "perhaps only" - which, as I said, suggests that there might have been others. There's no part of the text that suggests that Mace might've been a lesser duelist than Dooku. Ask anyone else on the forum.
Then you weren't checking hard enough.
Kolar and Tiin moved in towards Sidious, so obviously they'd be prone to being blitzed, and Mace wouldn't be able to respond in time.
For the movie, Mace clearly moves back once Sidious does his snarly-spin.
The RotJ novel would imply that Luke moving at a speed within the breadth of thought would be sufficient to fight Vader with no noticeable disparity. Mace has done that.
Regardless, if you agree that Jedi Council Members sometimes spar with one another without holding themselves back, then Mace has contended with Yoda, which is beyond any speed feat from Luke or Vader. And is proof that Sidious can't blitz him.
I'm pretty sure you can approximate the strength of beasts from their size. As far as Legends go, they were sometimes favored in gladiatorial combat against rancors, which would suggest that their strength was comparable.
My point about Mace's agility being the most pertinent physical advantage here still stands.
Except we know it couldn't have been a resurrection because TCW was apart of the EU before the Disney buyout. Also, wasn't this comic non canon in the EU continuity regardless?
Referring to Vader here.
Why didn't Mace try to follow up if he was fast enough to keep up with Sidious but was aware that his teammates weren't? I'll tell you why. Because he can't.
Honestly I'd like clarification from the author on it given it's an ambiguous statement. I'll put this point to the side for now however.
Tiin and Kolar were flanking Fisto and Mace in the movie. They were only slightly ahead of them ( less then a meter ) on either side yet they fully blocked the door they had just entered through. I don't see how the difference of a few feet is going to allow Sidious to blitz if Mace is supposed to be capable of keeping up with him. Regardless I already disproved this assumption with the canon statement I posted.
How does that imply Mace has contended with Yoda?
Don't think I didn't see that "even you." Don't pretend you're not a jerk Nova. Revel in it. Escaping from the grip of such a beast doesn't mean you have equal strength to them and as you're probably aware Vader has greater strength then the Starkiller clone.
Well it probably is thought combative speed is more important depending on the disparity.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Except we know it couldn't have been a resurrection because TCW was apart of the EU before the Disney buyout. Also, wasn't this comic non canon in the EU continuity regardless?
Old Wounds is non-Canon. This thing is Legends. Also, TCW has nothing to do with this. It takes place in 0BBY. For all we know, Canon Maul may well die before that. Either way, TCW is what you may call a retcon.
Why didn't Mace try to follow up if he was fast enough to keep up with Sidious but was aware that his teammates weren't? I'll tell you why. Because he can't.
I wasn't aware of this quote, actually, although it's Canon, not Legends, and quotes from the website are overriden by the films if they contradict. That's why the AotC quote about Dooku collapsing huge boulders on Anakin/Obi-Wan is wrong since he collapsed the column on them, not boulders.
Likewise, in the film, Kit Fisto clearly isn't killed before he (or Mace) can react. As I said, Canon supports me, not you, and we're discussing Legends anyway.
Honestly I'd like clarification from the author on it given it's an ambiguous statement. I'll put this point to the side for now however.
I might contact him in the future, but it isn't ambiguous at all. There's literally no other interpretation of it if you're sane. Just concede and move on.
Tiin and Kolar were flanking Fisto and Mace in the movie. They were only slightly ahead of them ( less then a meter ) on either side yet they fully blocked the door they had just entered through. I don't see how the difference of a few feet is going to allow Sidious to blitz if Mace is supposed to be capable of keeping up with him. Regardless I already disproved this assumption with the canon statement I posted.
Mace moves back when Sidious leaps forwards. Sidious also moves away from Mace to strike Saesee immediately after cutting down Agen, so of course Mace couldn't respond in time.
How does that imply Mace has contended with Yoda?
Because people in the Order think that Mace is equal with Yoda, which wouldn't be the case if Yoda was blitzing him in their spars. Moreover, do you really think that all of their spars were simply Yoda blitzing Mace? lmfao
Don't think I didn't see that "even you." Don't pretend you're not a jerk Nova. Revel in it. Escaping from the grip of such a beast doesn't mean you have equal strength to them and as you're probably aware Vader has greater strength then the Starkiller clone.
What are you talking about? I did a Ctrl+F of "even you" and there were no results on this entire page except when you said it. There were no results on the last two pages, either. 😬
Do you need some help? You have a tendency to overreact to others and call them jerks and whatever at every opportunity. Get thicker skin or stop wasting your time on KMC. I don't have the time to indulge your childish, delusional rants.
Well it probably is thought combative speed is more important depending on the disparity.
Which isn't anything more than negligible here 😬