Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If Superman is 100
Originally posted by abhilegend
Lots of characters in DC can do that.Just large gas Giants? Even Byrne Superman aka the weakest Superman can tank Krypton exploding under a red sun.
And Krypton dwarfed Jupiter BTW.
But maybe Thanos is just as strong as Byrne Superman.
DC characters are rare with planetary showings minus Green Lanterns of course. ABHI will post Superman 100 times bigger than a planet throwing emporer Joker on a planet as evidence. Anyways, if a character have showings of a character exceeding planetary showings, then that should prove they can destroy one. Dont know if Superman have those showings but if he does, that is proof enough imo.
Originally posted by carver9
DC characters are rare with planetary showings minus Green Lanterns of course. ABHI will post Superman 100 times bigger than a planet throwing emporer Joker on a planet as evidence. Anyways, if a character have showings of a character exceeding planetary showings, then that should prove they can destroy one. Dont know if Superman have those showings but if he does, that is proof enough imo.
Green lanterns do it with energy attacks, not physical strength.
Originally posted by Galan007
If we are saying that Superman's average = 100, and if we are using the characters at their [pre-Flashpoint] peaks, and if we are just talking physicality, then...Darkseid = 120.
V/V Despero = 150.
H/P Doomsday = 250.
Prime = 200.
I'm curious as to how you put Doomsday physically above SBP.
Prime is literally strong enough to take on the entire justice league, GLC, and Sinestro corps. All at the same time, without any difficulty. That includes several Kryptonian's.
Originally posted by apex_pretador
Sigh, I asked you for actual feats for someone destroying planets in DC, not what you posted.
Mon El destroys a planet by tossing it into a sun.
Point me anyone in Marvel even able to move a planet on his own. Silver Surfer maxed out in moving a moon.
Originally posted by apex_pretador
Strength wise, the strength required to completely destroy a planet is around the strength required to lift an entire solar system.
And this was stated in which comic? Your precious Surfer has destroyed planet and yet had to put every bit of his power in moving a moon.
Green lanterns do it with energy attacks, not physical strength.
Right. But somehow Thanos surviving a planet's destruction is a strength showing.
Somehow.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh right. Here you go.Mon El destroys a planet by tossing it into a sun.
Point me anyone in Marvel even able to move a planet on his own. Silver Surfer maxed out in moving a moon.
I think I asked you for a planet busting feat, by strength, not a feat of tossing a small asteroid into sun.
Still waiting.
Oh, and when did surfer "maxed out" in moving a moon?
Originally posted by apex_pretador
I think I asked you for a planet busting feat, by strength, not a feat of tossing a small asteroid into sun.
So you're just copying another poster's word for yours that it was an asteroid?
Asteroids aren't that big.
Still waiting.
Waiting for what?
But here you go. Superman and Kal-L's fight shatters the boundaries of reality and destroys a planet six times in three comics.
"Who can strike with such force they shatter-". It happened again and again. It happened 6 times in 3 comics.
Oh, and when did surfer "maxed out" in moving a moon?
In his own comic.
http://postimg.org/image/p7ajs6yrf/
http://postimg.org/image/rd4ump27v/
While Superman moved krypton which is bigger than Jupiter under his own power.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG15.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG16.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG17.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG18.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG19-20.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG21.jpg.html
What a feeb that Surfer is.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So you're just copying another poster's word for yours that it was an asteroid?Asteroids aren't that big.
Waiting for what?
But here you go. Superman and Kal-L's fight shatters the boundaries of reality and destroys a planet six times in three comics.
"Who can strike with such force they shatter-". It happened again and again. It happened 6 times in 3 comics.
In his own comic.
http://postimg.org/image/p7ajs6yrf/
http://postimg.org/image/rd4ump27v/While Superman moved krypton which is bigger than Jupiter under his own power.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG15.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG16.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG17.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG18.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG19-20.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG21.jpg.htmlWhat a feeb that Surfer is.
1. Surfer is not just moving the moon. He is taking it off on his board at super-speed. Moving moon at FTL >> moving a planet. Do you not see the lines around moving surfer showing FTL speed? See last panel.
2. I haven't read this issue, so can you please tell me that is this rally a moon or a planet? Because nowhere does it say that this is a moon, in the scans you posted.
3. Surfer , Quasar and ronan moved a planet in annihilation with ease through dimensional portal.
On superman
1. Are you really using the scans from crisis? I thought we were talking about post crisis, but not surprising seeing how you used a pre-crisis scan of that asteroid.
2. There is no PLANET destroyed here. Nothing shown , not saying planets are being cracked or anything. They were shattering spacetime / realities and that's it.
3.If you are basing that just on "worlds shattered" then you should atleast know that this is referring to reality being broken, hell, even on the panel where lois and superman are kissing, the "worlds shattered" but agian, you might believe that superman is capable of planet-busting without doing any damage to actual planet and by kissing lois.
4. Reality was weak at that time due to all that crisis. That's why reality was shattering all over the place so easily.
On the other superman scans:
1. How many times do I have to tell you that planet moving =/=planet busting. I can move a car, but I can't destroy one (maybe with grenade or bomb, but not my own power). Hell, I can't even destroy a shot-putt, dspite the fact that I can lift it in one hand and toss it.
So, even if superman is capable of tossing around planets with one hand, it doesn't mean he can destroy one with his own power.
You know what, you should be able to lift 50+ coconuts easily, try to destroy one, and post a video if you are successful. Maybe then you'll realize the difference in moving and destroying. 😆 😆 😆
2. Which superman is this? This is definitely not pre 52 superman.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And what proof do you have that it was an asteroid?Oh right, none.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And what proof do you have that it was an asteroid?Oh right, none.
again you are asking people to prove things they dont have to prove. you were asked to show a planet busting feat. riv is right you showed a feat of moving something. we dont know if its a planet or not it isnt stated in the scan. it can be anything. it can be asteroid for all that we know. people are simply asking a feat where we clearly see its a planet and we clearly see someone bust it. why is it so hard with you and simple first grade comprehension? ABHI tell us. why?
Originally posted by apex_pretador
1. Surfer is not just moving the moon. He is taking it off on his board at super-speed. Moving moon at FTL >> moving a planet. Do you not see the lines around moving surfer showing FTL speed? See last panel.2. I haven't read this issue, so can you please tell me that is this rally a moon or a planet? Because nowhere does it say that this is a moon, in the scans you posted.
3. Surfer , Quasar and ronan moved a planet in annihilation with ease through dimensional portal.
On superman
1. Are you really using the scans from crisis? I thought we were talking about post crisis, but not surprising seeing how you used a pre-crisis scan of that asteroid.
2. There is no PLANET destroyed here. Nothing shown , not saying planets are being cracked or anything. They were shattering spacetime / realities and that's it.
3.If you are basing that just on "worlds shattered" then you should atleast know that this is referring to reality being broken, hell, even on the panel where lois and superman are kissing, the "worlds shattered" but agian, you might believe that superman is capable of planet-busting without doing any damage to actual planet and by kissing lois.
4. Reality was weak at that time due to all that crisis. That's why reality was shattering all over the place so easily.
On the other superman scans:
1. How many times do I have to tell you that planet moving =/=planet busting. I can move a car, but I can't destroy one (maybe with grenade or bomb, but not my own power). Hell, I can't even destroy a shot-putt, dspite the fact that I can lift it in one hand and toss it.
So, even if superman is capable of tossing around planets with one hand, it doesn't mean he can destroy one with his own power.
You know what, you should be able to lift 50+ coconuts easily, try to destroy one, and post a video if you are successful. Maybe then you'll realize the difference in moving and destroying. 😆 😆 😆2. Which superman is this? This is definitely not pre 52 superman.
The panel is more than a proof. See how small it is.
Right on point. The crisis and reality itself was weakened and when those two Supers met, it weakened it even further. It had nothing to do with planet shattering or hell, their punches. It was more focused on two Supers fighting and time already being in a Flux. Sad that even new people that joined the forum knows this. He will keep using it though.
