Originally posted by apex_pretador
1. Surfer is not just moving the moon. He is taking it off on his board at super-speed. Moving moon at FTL >> moving a planet. Do you not see the lines around moving surfer showing FTL speed? See last panel.
Lines means lightspeed? Since when? A weakened Ultraman moved the moon away with complete ease.
Superman moved a giant planet with his HV alone under red sun.
2. I haven't read this issue, so can you please tell me that is this rally a moon or a planet? Because nowhere does it say that this is a moon, in the scans you posted.
It is specifically stated to be a moon in the comic.
3. Surfer , Quasar and ronan moved a planet in annihilation with ease through dimensional portal.
Completely off panel. Superman and Hal moved a planet after wrestling with the power of a skyfather level being.
Mon-El, Andromeda and Dev-Em moved a planet. Casually at that.
You're saying Surfer is low herald level in DC?
On superman
1. Are you really using the scans from crisis? I thought we were talking about post crisis, but not surprising seeing how you used a pre-crisis scan of that asteroid.
That's not pre crisis. That's from post crisis. Around infinite crisis.
And that "asteroid" scene is post crisis as well.
2. There is no PLANET destroyed here. Nothing shown , not saying planets are being cracked or anything. They were shattering spacetime / realities and that's it.
The phrase "The world shattered" is stated six times. What do you think world means?
3.If you are basing that just on "worlds shattered" then you should atleast know that this is referring to reality being broken, hell, even on the panel where lois and superman are kissing, the "worlds shattered" but agian, you might believe that superman is capable of planet-busting without doing any damage to actual planet and by kissing lois.
He is sharing memories with Kal-L's memories. That's just a flashback he is having in his memory.
Unless you think Superman went to kiss Lois in the middle of the fight.
4. Reality was weak at that time due to all that crisis. That's why reality was shattering all over the place so easily.
That's just a myth. Reality was never stated to be weak.
On the other superman scans:
1. How many times do I have to tell you that planet moving =/=planet busting. I can move a car, but I can't destroy one (maybe with grenade or bomb, but not my own power). Hell, I can't even destroy a shot-putt, dspite the fact that I can lift it in one hand and toss it.
That's cute kid. Moving a planet isn't just about moving it's mass. It's overpowering all the gravitational force of sun and it's rotation. To destroy the planet all you need to do is overcome the gravitational binding force.
Try moving a car running at 100 mph and see how it works for you.
And again, let me know a single planet mover in Marvel if that's easier than destroying a planet.
So, even if superman is capable of tossing around planets with one hand, it doesn't mean he can destroy one with his own power.
If he is able to toss a planet with one hand, he will casually destroy a planet.
You know what, you should be able to lift 50+ coconuts easily, try to destroy one, and post a video if you are successful. Maybe then you'll realize the difference in moving and destroying. 😆 😆 😆
Try moving coconuts with your bare hands when they are moving above speed of sound.
Send me a video too.
2. Which superman is this? This is definitely not pre 52 superman.
Pre 52 Superman.
The panel is more than a proof. See how small it is.
Small enough that it looks close to the size of a sun?
Good eye kid.
