Beniboybling
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Originally posted by SunRazer
Those towers don't look 75m plus, and Dooku was doing it with (much) greater ease.Also, you can't debunk someone's best feat by saying they've never done anything as good, lol. By that logic, you can strip anyone of their best showing.
Likewise, claiming that he's never displayed it in combat is pretty flawed. Vader doesn't show anything close to cathedral busting and his other environmentally destructive showings in fights as well. Likewise, Yoda never displays anything close to his top TK feats against Sidious in the Senate with the pods, etc., etc. - the movies just don't depict telekinetic potency anywhere near the EU, obviously.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Also, Dooku levitated the ships rather than just sliding them across the ground, since it mentions a ship going over Obi-Wan and Anakin's heads. Granted, they did drop, but if the vehicles were just skidding across the floor, it'd still hit them. And when the vehicles shattered, the parts "fell like rain" on the Jedi, so it was obviously overhead.Not to mention that Dooku flipped one over casually, which is pretty impressive and better than Vader calling a freighter that's about half the size of these cruisers. Then there's the fact that the ships shattered upon hitting the wall, which is proof that they were flying at a pretty high velocity.
Dooku doing all this "so easily" is pretty damn impressive.
Fair points, however we don't even have an accurate fix on the size of the ships, 75m is just a guesstimation, I'm not sure how big that tower is but it looks pretty big.
Though to be quite honest, ILS has a point when he says these kinds of comparisons are insufficient, and without accurate calculations we can only make broad comparisons and opinion based conclusions. Hence why I find Vader's general superiority to Starkiller more compelling.
Anyway that wasn't my point, rather that it adds credence to the idea that this was a feat facilitated by the nexus, since he's never depicted as such a telekinetic powerhouse elsewhere - in the movies or the EU. And looking into the source, I'm afraid the power of the planet wasn't as weak as you make it out to be.
First of all it is powerful enough to make the Jedi afraid to go there:
"They are on Korriban."Anakin felt the dread in the room. He knew of Korriban only through legends. Thousands of years before, it had been the seat of Sith power. The tombs of the ancient Sith Lords were there, and it was still a source of the dark side of the Force. It was a place no Jedi wanted to go.
And its dark side presence is profoundly felt by Kenobi from the moment they exit hyperspace:
The instrument panel showed they were about to come out of hyperspace. It was time to enter the coordinates for landing at Dreshdae.Obi-Wan drifted to the front of the cockpit and the others followed. They stood, looking out into dark space. There were few stars out here, and no planets. Korriban loomed in their vision, a large planet with blood-red clouds obscuring its surface.
"I've heard it called the cradle of darkness," Obi-Wan said. He realized that he had lowered his voice.
He felt it now, the dark side of the Force emanating from the planet's surface. Looking at the faces of the Jedi, he knew they felt it as well. It had a sick sweetness to it, something that seemed to pour through his veins, attracting and repelling him at once. It was the most complicated surge of the dark side he had ever felt.
He struggled to meet it, struggled to clear his mind.
When they land on the planet, the dark side begin to project illusions, and this is just in Dreshdae, where the Sith barely had a presence at all:
Anakin felt a touch on his shoulder and turned. No one was behind him. Perhaps it had been a leaf brushing his shoulder - but he knew, of course, that there were no trees on Korriban.Another touch - Anakin whipped around. He looked at Ferus, wondering if he was trying to play a trick on him, but Ferus was several meters back, talking to Soara.
He began to pick up a whisper. Then another. He couldn't make out the words, only the intent. Someone was baiting him, cajoling him, laughing at him... or was it his imagination? Was it just the wind whispering through the stones?
They crossed the street and he thought he saw a flash of something - blood coursing down a stone wall. When he blinked, it was gone.
"Master... "
"It is the dark side of the Force, Anakin," Obi-Wan said. "I'm picking it up, too. Ignore it."
But Anakin couldn't ignore it. There was something insistent about the voices. Something that urged him to answer. Although the feeling made him anxious, he also wanted to face it. He wanted to get to the root of this dark power... to match himself against it... to prove, once and for all, that he was as strong as it was.
And when they arrive at the ancient Sith monastery (where the hangar was located) the dark side appears to be even more concentrated:
Anakin looked down. Below them an ancient structure rose out of the steep mountainside and spilled out into a narrow valley. The mountain made two-thirds of the structure impenetrable. The entrance was in ruins, blocked by huge toppled columns and blocks of crumbling stone.Anakin felt the peculiar stomach-turning wrench he experienced when faced with the tremors of the dark side of the Force. He knew what this wreck of a building was.
The ancient Sith monastery spread out below him, deserted for centuries, and still a presence of evil. Here was where thousands of Sith had once trained - and thousands of hopefuls had once disappeared forever.
There is more, in particular the Valley of the Dark Lord is described as
steeped in the dark side, and pretty much blows DMB's Tukata comparison out of water, lmao.
More to the point, the dark side was alive and well on Korriban. Enough to amp Dooku to a notable degree, surely.
