WINDU'S STATE FROM ORIGINAL ROTS
1. Sabers only - team wins 10/10 without a contest. Mace=Palpatine, and Dooku provides a leverage huge enough in this stalemate, that Palpatine stands no chance.
2. Force only - Palpatine. Dooku can't stand up to Palpatine, and while Windu should demonstrate a higher power than usual in this setup, he can't save Dooku and falls miserably in 1v1. Palpatine 10/10 with some resistance.
3. All out - Palpatine won't have enough space to dispose of Dooku with Windu's full presure, and with Dooku there, won't be able to direct his powers at Windu with enough power to dispose of him. However, Dooku can die protecting Mace if Palpatine attacks with the Force, and then it's game over, and Palpatine can get the lucky opportunity to throw Dooku out of the window. Team 7-8/10.
STANDARD MACE
1. Sabers only - team 5-6/10.
2. Force only - Palpatine 10/10.
3. All out - Palpatine 10/10.
@Quan.
Within the public office of the Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic, a last Jedi Master battled alone, blade-to-blade, against a living shadow. Sinking into Vaapad, Mace Windu fought for his life. More than his life: each whirl of blade and whipcrack of lightning was a strike in defense of democracy, of justice and peace, of the rights of ordinary beings to live their own lives in their own ways.
- Source : Revenge of the Sith Novel
Suggests that Windu's use of Vapaad was what allowed his "victory." As does this quote.
Mace was deep in it now: submerged in Vaapad, swallowed by it, he no longer truly existed as an independent being. Vaapad is a channel for darkness, and that darkness flowed both ways. He accepted the furious speed of the Sith Lord, drew the shadow's rage and power into his inmost center- And let it fountain out again. He was not afraid. The darkness had no power over him.
- Source : Revenge of the Sith Novel
This one suggests that Vapaad and Shatterpoint were allowed him to win.
Vaapad made him an open channel, half of a superconducting loop completed by the shadow; they became a standing wave of battle that expanded into every cubic centimeter of the Chancellor's office. There was no scrap of carpet nor shred of chair that might not at any second disintegrate in flares of red or purple; lampstands became brief shields, sliced into segments that whirled through the air; couches became terrain to be climbed for advantage or overleapt in retreat. But there was still only the cycle of power, the endless loop, no wound taken on either side, not even the possibility of fatigue. Impasse. Which might have gone on forever, if Vaapad were Mace's only gift. The fighting was effortless for him now; he let his body handle it without the intervention of his mind. While his blade spun and crackled, while his feet slid and his weight shifted and his shoulders turned in precise curves of their own direction, his mind slid along the circuit of dark power, tracing it back to its limitless source.
Feeling for its shatterpoint.
- Source : Revenge of the Sith Novel
So, Windu's "victory" was highly circumstantial. And other evidence even suggests that Sidious allowed Windu to win, but I'll get into that later if you desire to lose so badly.
Originally posted by darthbane77You could say that about any fight. Fact is Windu won while your opinion over the events is just an opinion.
@Quan.
Within the public office of the Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic, a last Jedi Master battled alone, blade-to-blade, against a living shadow. Sinking into Vaapad, Mace Windu fought for his life. More than his life: each whirl of blade and whipcrack of lightning was a strike in defense of democracy, of justice and peace, of the rights of ordinary beings to live their own lives in their own ways.- Source : Revenge of the Sith Novel
Suggests that Windu's use of Vapaad was what allowed his "victory." As does this quote.Mace was deep in it now: submerged in Vaapad, swallowed by it, he no longer truly existed as an independent being. Vaapad is a channel for darkness, and that darkness flowed both ways. He accepted the furious speed of the Sith Lord, drew the shadow's rage and power into his inmost center- And let it fountain out again. He was not afraid. The darkness had no power over him.
- Source : Revenge of the Sith Novel
This one suggests that Vapaad and Shatterpoint were allowed him to win.
Vaapad made him an open channel, half of a superconducting loop completed by the shadow; they became a standing wave of battle that expanded into every cubic centimeter of the Chancellor's office. There was no scrap of carpet nor shred of chair that might not at any second disintegrate in flares of red or purple; lampstands became brief shields, sliced into segments that whirled through the air; couches became terrain to be climbed for advantage or overleapt in retreat. But there was still only the cycle of power, the endless loop, no wound taken on either side, not even the possibility of fatigue. Impasse. Which might have gone on forever, if Vaapad were Mace's only gift. The fighting was effortless for him now; he let his body handle it without the intervention of his mind. While his blade spun and crackled, while his feet slid and his weight shifted and his shoulders turned in precise curves of their own direction, his mind slid along the circuit of dark power, tracing it back to its limitless source.
Feeling for its shatterpoint.
- Source : Revenge of the Sith Novel
So, Windu's "victory" was highly circumstantial. And other evidence even suggests that Sidious allowed Windu to win, but I'll get into that later if you desire to lose so badly.