Revan and the Unbalancing of the Galaxy Feat

Started by UCanShootMyNova18 pages

ILS made Maul what he was despite him being sh!t. You're not one to talk since you can't even get people to appreciate actually good characters. In fact you often lower people's opinions of them.

Yeah; good characters like Bane and Zannah.

I enjoyed Bane's whole "from nobody to nightmare" arc over Krayt's (cool character design aside) rather bland portrayal of a Dark Lord at any rate

Wyyrlok was leagues more interesting imo *shrugs*

Also, I sent you that PM right ILS :hmm

Or did I imagine that on migraine medicine *shrugs*

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Your entire argument rests on not just speculation, but speculation rooted in a source that is not credible.

Darth Plagueis and Palpatine never dominated the Force. No work states that besides the biased perspective of the narrator as portrayed in the Darth Plagueis novelization, which highlights the viewpoint of Darth Plagueis. The reason why the "Force's domination" was suggested during the meditation was because the Force didn't fight back. Darth Plagueis assumed that this was due to the fact that their will was simply that powerful, but that wasn't the case. You cite the birth of the Chosen One as proof that the unbalancing act was unprecedented, but there is no proof that this is the reason why Anakin Skywalker was born besides the musings of Darth Plagueis and Palpatine. And as we know thanks to Leland Chee, Anakin Skywalker couldn't have possibly been born due to this incident. The math doesn't add up.

First, let's establish that Anakin Skywalker has two different ages to work with here.

Assuming 0 BrS / ArS is 35.0 BBY, then Anakin Skywalker is 10.27 years old as of The Phantom Menace.

Otherwise, assuming 3:4:14 ArS is 32.0 BBY, then Anakin Skywalker is 9 years, 10 months, and roughly 24 days old of The Phantom Menace.

That being established, the Yinchorri Uprising takes place in 33.0 BBY. In the Darth Plagueis novel, it states that the meditation took place 8 years prior to such.

Thus, let's take 41.0 BBY as the year it occurred. Next, I'm going to be extremely generous to you.

I'll assume that the mental war took place across twelve months and 31 days, in which merely one day landed in 41.0 BBY.

In such a situation, we're dealing with the mental war beginning roughly 42.0 BBY. Now, note that Anakin Skywalker was born in 41.9 BBY, not conceived.

In other words, he would have been conceived well into 42 BBY. Thus, it is impossible for the mental war to have actually conceived Anakin Skywalker.

If we're using the BrS dating system instead, it's even more impossible for Anakin Skywalker to have been conceived during the mental war.

So, we have the mental war neither bringing about the birth of Anakin Skywalker, nor were there any other resistance.

Instead, the leading theory on Anakin Skywalker's creation is via Palpatine's own midichlorian manipulation, as established in TCSWE.

In other words, the reasons you why find it impressive are not true. And thus, the feat is less relevant than Darth Malak putting Revan in stasis.

I'll get back to you on the Revan stuff next, but I wanted to get this out of the way first. 👆

Lmao.

The Plagueis Brigade is sweating bullets right now.

Once Ant vanquishes it's high priest in 'Swords, the Church will fall, and all will be well again.

Swords is already vanquished. It's impossible for Anakin, born in 41.9 BBY and likely conceived around 42.7 BBY, to have been the product of a ~ 41 BBY event.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
The Plagueis Brigade is sweating bullets right now.

Once Ant vanquishes it's high priest in 'Swords, the Church will fall, and all will be well again.

Come on now DC, it's not hard to spot the desperation when the TOR phags start scraping the barrel with these kinds of arguments.

Do you have a legitimate rebuttal to the *fact* Anakin was conceived prior to the event taking place?

I think the rebuttal was "Lmao". Its about as legitimate as we can expect from Beni, I suppose.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Do you have a legitimate rebuttal to the *fact* Anakin was conceived prior to the event taking place?
Well at this point it hinges on the idea that Sidious trigged the creation of the Chosen One accidentally while running some tests for his master, so perhaps a little more work needs to be done on it yet. 😉
Originally posted by Nephthys
I think the rebuttal was "Lmao". Its about as legitimate as we can expect from Beni, I suppose.
From those of your intellectual level it's usually all that's required. 🙂

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Well at this point it hinges on the idea that Sidious trigged the creation of the Chosen One accidentally while running some tests for his master, so perhaps a little more work needs to be done on it yet. 😉

No, it "hinges" on nothing. Note that what I presented isn't an argument. I laid out the factual dates of events.

It's up to the Plagueis Brigade to scramble and figure out why Anakin Skywalker was created.

I merely presented the evidence of Palpatine's actions since it's the only source-supported claim I've read thus far.

Huh

If this hobby wasn't so niche, you ****ers would be a gold mine of material for my thesis :hmm

Star Wars and its fandom is the comedy cancer that keeps on trucking 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No, it "hinges" on nothing. Note that what I presented isn't an argument. I laid out the factual dates of events.

It's up to the Plagueis Brigade to scramble and figure out why Anakin Skywalker was created.

I merely presented the evidence of Palpatine's actions since it's the only source-supported claim I've read thus far.

Of course it does lol, within the scope of a fictional universe, dates can be bungled and retcons can occur.

Regarding those factual dates though, do you have a source for when the ritual took place?

You would need a source that confirms the dates are wrong, since no direct contradiction exists.

The ritual took place eight years prior to the Yinchorri Crisis, as per the Plagueis novel.

I was generous enough and even gave the Plagueis Brigade an extra year of time.

Even then, Anakin Skywalker would have still been conceived prior.

The fact that Sidious did nothing that would warrant the creation of the Chosen One prior to the event would be a contradiction yes.

And I'm looking for excepts please, naturally your claims need to be verified.

No, that's not a direct contradiction, especially considering a canonical alternative is presented, lmfao. 😬

A quote it was eight months prior, or what?

Come on Beni, you can do it! Even one on my intellectual level instantly saw the flaw in this argument! 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

The ritual took place eight years prior to the Yinchorri Crisis, as per the Plagueis novel.

He wants this kiddo