Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I'm honestly angry at you because you don't give a shit about actually understanding the lore or intent of its authors. All you care about is wanking a single character beyond reasonable levels to suit your own personal bias and and gain personal prestige within the community. You're honestly a bit of a scumbag and it sickens me.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I have read the book and its companion piece "The Tenebrous Way" which notes that it's Plagueis's actions which will bring about the anomaly known as the Chosen One. The entire point of Tenebrous taking on Plagueis as an apprentice and feeding his insecurities in regards to immortality so that he would focus his efforts in this area was so that the anomaly could be born and so that he could inhabit its body and become the most powerful force user who ever lived.
No, it doesn't. I wouldn't necessarily expect you to know, but still.
No we don't. Unless you can prove that the source your using to justify the meditation taking place around that time applies to all dates outside of the source itself you have no leg to stand on.
I don't even know what this means, but I assume it's you just being you again.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No, it doesn't. I wouldn't necessarily expect you to know, but still.I don't even know what this means, but I assume it's you just being you again. [/B]
"The key, he'd discovered, lay in an obscure legend obliquely referenced in the Journal of the Whills, about a hero fairly typical in most cultures-the sort of promised future savior who appears in the foundational myths of nearly every developed society. What distinguished this particular savior from his run-of-the-mill equivalents was that he, according to four of eleven possible translations, was to be "born of pure Force." After three standard years devoted specifically to exploring all possible permutations of the interpretation, Tenebrous determined that such a birth was indeed possible, at least metaphorically- "born of pure Force" could be read as indicating the creation of a living being through direct manipulation of midi-chlorian processes in an already living being.
And further, as Tenebrous discovered with rising excitement, such a being s Force potential might be limited not by its creator's own midi-chlorian count, but instead only by its creator's level of discipline and attention to detail. Indeed, his calculations indicated a range potentially far beyond his own. With proper execution, the "savior" might have a midi-chlorian count as high as fifteen thousand!
Perhaps even more.
It might be possible to create a being with the greatest Force potential ever recorded!
And-by the application of his own suitably subtle variation of the ancient Sith brute-force essence transfer-Tenebrous could ensure that his own consciousness would be present at the creation of this being, this savior, this Chosen One. And, at the moment of creation-long before the Chosen One could hope to resist- Tenebrous would seize it. Would become it.
With this single stroke, decades after his body's death, he would become the most powerful Force-user in the history of the galaxy.
It was all there in the numbers. He could not possibly fail.
Once his analysis had been parsed to its nth degree, polished into a gem perfect beyond the possibility of flaw, Tenebrous had devoted every second of every day of his life to fulfilling his plan. Nothing would be left to chance. He had exterminated his doddering Master with his customary efficiency, and had embarked immediately on a decades-spanning quest for an apprentice of his own. And not just an apprentice, but the apprentice: one possessed of a very specific combination of particular skills-primarily surrounding the direct perception and manipulation of midi-chlorian activity-but also a range of weaknesses, from short-sighted concern with personal profit to an unconquerable dread of the unknown realms beyond the walls of death.
An apprentice whose sole purpose was to create the being Tenebrous would become." - The Tenebrous Way.
Right.
😂 Did you not read the entire thing?
Now Tenebrous touched upon his apprentice's powers of foresight, which were also vastly more developed than Tenebrous had believed. For a moment. Tenebrous found his perception cast far forward in time-to Plagueis' own death at the hands of his apprentice, who was himself visible only as a smear of darkness....A shadow!
For an instant, Tenebrous felt the death anguish of Plagueis.... and felt the searing agony Plagueis felt.... at his failure to have ever created the Force-user Tenebrous was to become! He would allow his own apprentice to kill him too soon...
Now, please stop talking in this thread. It's just making it messy.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
😂 Did you not read the entire thing?[/i]
Accept we know that's not the case because Anakin was born. The difference being that Plagueis didn't create him directly under his own experimentation with midichlorian manipulation but the Force did as a reaction against what Plagueis and Sidious were doing. Tenebrous's ignorance to that fact doesn't change that.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Accept we know that's not the case because Anakin was born.
Right. My point was dismissing your usage of the Tenebrous Way, which is outdated and inconsistent with the time, like you said.
Now, let's see if you can form a theory on how Anakin Skywalker was born that is consistent with the timeline....
The difference being that Plagueis didn't create him directly under his own experimentation but the Force did as a reaction against what Plagueis and Sidious were doing.
Ah, you can't. This is inconsistent with the timeline, and never specifically stated, and thus impossible. 👆
You've really been trying to prove me wrong here, but you've yet to land even a blow against my impeccable math.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Right. My point was dismissing your usage of the Tenebrous Way, which is outdated and inconsistent with the time, like you said.Now, let's see if you can form a theory on how Anakin Skywalker was born that is consistent with the timeline....
Ah, you can't. This is inconsistent with the timeline, and never specifically stated, and thus impossible. 👆
You've really been trying to prove me wrong here, but you've yet to land even a blow against my impeccable math. [/B]
It doesn't matter. Don't you see that? Nobody cares if your math is right because the intent was made clear. You failed before you even began. That you can't realize this is the saddest part of the whole farce.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Uh, it seems that a lot of people care. A lot of people have already accepted the facts.And while you don't believe me, it's still evident that you care. Everyone seems to care.
The issue is that those who care and still deny my math has yet to prove that my math is wrong.
No Ant. Alot of people haven't. A lot of people will use this argument to support their agendas like you. But they won't believe it for a second. I don't even think you believe it.
I care because I take offense as a Star Wars fan of your blatant twisting of information in support of your bias.
I'm honestly curious on who you think actually cares about the math over the intent.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
You mean the thread were you ran away from Swords? Was a g'dun. Yeah.Can help but notice you've been avoiding ILS in this thread as well. mmm
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
How?There's absolutely no evidence that Darth Plagueis had anything to do with the creation of the Chosen One.
To assume such is complete and utter speculation.
And don't think I'm not going to respond to your blasphemy concerning Revan either, ILS.
I'll start my post concerning Revan now, but the Plagueis aspect of it has been debunked.