Valkorion's supremacy, a comparison.

There is a most telling difference between Valkorion and Darth Sidious, it is seen when they engage powerhouses in combat, for example when Darth Sidious faces Master Yoda, it is indicated in a plethora of sources that the fight is mostly a stalemate:

Yoda's knowledge of the Force makes him just as powerful as Darth Sidious.
- Star Wars: Mysteries of the Jedi

There came a turning point in the clash of the light against the dark.

It did not come from a flash of lightning or slash of energy blade, though there were these in plenty; it did not come from a flying kick or a surgically precise punch, though these were traded, too.
- Revenge of the Sith Novelization

YODA unleashes a ferocious assault on PALPATINE, causing him to almost go over the edge. The Dark Lord drops his lightsaber but recovers with a BLAST OF ENERGY from his hands that surrounds YODA. YODA is deflecting the Sith Lord's lightning bolts.

The energy bolts begin to arc back on the Emperor. It looks as if the Dark Lord is doomed.
- Revenge of the Sith Script

Yoda caught it. The blue energy built into a glowing ball in his hand, ready to throw back at the Sith Lord the moment his attack stopped. But Palpatine didn’t stop; the Force lightning came in a steady crackle, building more and more, until neither of them could hold it any longer, and the blast knocked them both out of the pod.
- Revenge of the Sith Junior Novel

These titans continue clashing until Yoda is downed, but hardly defeated.
- Star Wars Trading Card Game

Sidious battles with passion and fury, only to be matched every blow by Yoda's calm, measured skill.
- Star Wars: Beware of the Sith

Master Yoda is obviously the most powerful Jedi of all time, until the likes of Master Luke Skywalker. But then we have Revan, who is noted to be one of the most powerful Force weilders in the entire mythos:

"Revan was one of the strongest Force-weilders ever."
- Chris Avellone

Infact, Revan is noted to be more powerful than any Jedi, including the likes of Master Thon, Odan-Urr, and all others:

Revan has become more powerful than any Jedi has ever dreamed of.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic

Revan is again stated to be one of the most powerful Force users ever:

"Revan travels to a very iconic Yavin IV to go to battle and release the actual Emperor, one we thought who was defeated not long ago. The player is pulled into this struggle of two of the most powerful Force users, like ever, in the history of the Old Republic, if not beyond - Revan and the Emperor."
- Michael Backus

He has been capable of ashing Sith Lords such as Darth Nyriss, who has Force lightning feats even Count Dooku hasn't replicated. This was over three hundred years before his prime. He also faced two strike teams of some of the most powerful Jedi and Sith in the galaxy, back to back, and was barely defeated on both occasions.

Yet even he is not capable of standing against Emperor Vitiate:

"...The Emperor will prove far too powerful for Revan, or anyone else."
- Darth Marr, Star Wars: The Old Republic: Shadow of Revan

Noting that this is merely Vitiate's resurrected spirit and not the much more powerful Valkorion.

So whilst one can certainly state that Yoda is more powerful than Revan, thus making Darth Sidious' stalemate less of stand out. It can't overcome the fact that Valkorion was beyond being far too powerful for Revan, the gap is even more significant.

Valkorion's supreme because Sidious stalemated Yoda and Valkorion's better than Revan, even though there isn't any comparison between Yoda and Revan? Right.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Valkorion's supreme because Sidious stalemated Yoda and Valkorion's better than Revan, even though there isn't any comparison between Yoda and Revan? Right.

Originally posted by AncientPower
But then we have Revan, who is noted to be one of the most powerful Force weilders in the entire mythos:

Infact, Revan is noted to be more powerful than any Jedi, including the likes of Master Thon, Odan-Urr, and all others:

He has been capable of ashing Sith Lords such as Darth Nyriss, who has Force lightning feats even Count Dooku hasn't replicated. This was over three hundred years before his prime. He also faced two strike teams of some of the most powerful Jedi and Sith in the galaxy, back to back, and was barely defeated on both occasions.

I ask you again: On what Basis do you dismiss accolades, that put Sidious above Vitate/Valkorion?

Lol.

Nyriss' Lightning is hardly beyond Dooku's, anyway.

Revan is clearly approaching Yoda in power, given by the time of the novel he's capable of absorbing and reflecting lightning much more potent than anything Dooku has managed.

Yet Valkorion absorbed a planet after already being far too powerful for Revan, which is frankly one of the best powerscaling accolades there is.

There's no reason to believe that Dooku charging up his Lightning on Kaas wouldn't be similarly powerful. Nyriss' uncharged Lightning wasn't beyond Dooku's at all.

Killing Ventress while injured is still > being able to ash post-prime Meetra on a powerful DS nexus with charged Lightning, lol.

Yeah, if we're talking composite versions, then a mortally injured Dooku killing Ventress is extremely impressive since she's withstood electrocution from Coruscant's high-power cables and then a subsequent fall from a skyscraper.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Nyriss' Lightning is hardly beyond Dooku's, anyway.

Given Meetra alone, who is more powerful than Darth Traya, shits on Asajj Ventress in Force power, and the fact Nyriss would've incinerated both her and Scourge. Yet Revan utterly stomped her with his raw power, and then Revan gets even more powerful by the time of SOR. Vitiate was still far too powerful for Revan then, and Vitiate got even stronger, absorbing Ziost after the fact, becoming Valkorion in full.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Given Meetra alone, who is more powerful than Darth Traya, shits on Asajj Ventress in Force power, and the fact Nyriss would've incinerated both her and Scourge. Yet Revan utterly stomped her with his raw power, and then Revan gets even more powerful by the time of SOR. Vitiate was still far too powerful for Revan then, and Vitiate got even stronger, absorbing Ziost after the fact, becoming Valkorion in full.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Given Meetra alone, who is more powerful than Darth Traya, shits on Asajj Ventress in Force power, and the fact Nyriss would've incinerated both her and Scourge. Yet Revan utterly stomped her with his raw power, and then Revan gets even more powerful by the time of SOR. Vitiate was still far too powerful for Revan then, and Vitiate got even stronger, absorbing Ziost after the fact, becoming Valkorion in full.

Yes, because Revan Meetra is totally comparable to KotOR II Exile.

There's no such thing as 'post prime' Meetra, that's fanon, Dromund Kaas is more powerful than Malachor V? Source?

Ventress has absolutely nothing physically on Meetra traversing Malachor's crushing surface whilst killing packs of storm beasts, before cutting through an entire legion of elite Sith and then defeating Darth Sion in several contests before defeating Darth Traya on a colossal geyser of dark side energy.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Yes, because Revan Meetra is totally comparable to KotOR II Exile.

Given the Dromund Kaas nexus is effecting her, sure, but that can't completely negate Nyriss' power.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Given the Dromund Kaas nexus is effecting her, sure, but that can't completely negate Nyriss' power.

As well as minus all of her Force Bonds, minus all the strength she gained from draining others through her Wound, and Force Enlightenment.

Or we can stop pretending that Drew's interpretation of her is at all comparable to how she's depicted in KotOR II.

Just thought of something else - on Korriban, a much less powerful nexus than Dromund Kaas, Dooku's usages of the Force were leaving behind pools of darkness, which even Nyriss wasn't doing. I think that makes it clear that Tyranus is beyond Nyriss with respects to dark side power. So the Revan/Nyriss vs Yoda/Dooku comparison can be binned as well.

Yoda would have slaughtered Vitiate lmao.

Christ help me... How dumb is the TOR brigade?

*desperate