Valkorion's supremacy, a comparison.

Started by Beniboybling6 pages

Originally posted by MythLord
Eh, I can see AP being a legitimately good debater, but this case is doing her no favours.

Does Skillz debate nowadays?

She's actually just bad.

Originally posted by MythLord
Eh, I can see AP being a legitimately good debater, but this case is doing her no favours.

Does Skillz debate nowadays?


Yeah, her last two therad weren't that good.

Dunno.

Originally posted by SunRazer
I'm curious as to what caused DC's recent shift in mindset, tbh.

The spoils of the PT brigade forced KMC to conceive a counterforce. This time it won't be enough tho uhuh

Spoiler:
Especially since DC is more of a cheerleader atm, like me 😛
Your judgement on debating ability comes from who's opinion you agree more, not who's case is legitimately better, as with most debaters on the forums.

What an utterly retarded outlook to have, lal. Debating ability should be judged by who makes the better arguments, not the stance of said arguments. If not, you're just being bias to which one fits your arbitrary rankings. Rather than point articulation, ingenuity, overall intellect, etc.

The rest of your post is just aimless chest beating, and bias debating rankings so I'm just going to ignore.

Originally posted by AncientPower
I'm so 'dumb', that I have a Mastery in the Arts of Business Administration from UP Diliman and earn the equivalent of US$84,700 a month for taking paid-in-contract business trips around Manila, Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong all year round.

But I'm sure I'm a retard who gets to spend half her day on beaches whilst the bunch of you are doing homework. 😂

You know, she has a point. While all of you retards are doing homework to become qualified in your desired field, AP is taking the world by storm and making big money while doing it.

With her... Master's degree... from a university... which she presumably did a lot of homework to obtain.

And it's risen her self-esteem to such heights that she decided to boast about it to people young enough to be in school because one of them... called her dumb.

You go, AP. Killin' it. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Debating ability should be judged by who makes the better arguments,

I disagree. That you make better arguments =/= that younare a better debater.
I remember Nova demolishing someone in a debate, although his arguments were cancer.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
What an utterly retarded outlook to have, lal. Debating ability should be judged by who makes the better arguments, not the stance of said arguments. If not, you're just being bias to which one fits your arbitrary rankings. Rather than point articulation, ingenuity, overall intellect, etc.

The rest of your post is just aimless chest beating, and bias debating rankings so I'm just going to ignore.

A few weeks ago your top 5 best debaters consisted of 4 PT debaters and only 1 from TOR 🙂

@Urs....what? A debaters quality is hinged on how well he/she makes arguments. 😬

Bandwagon'ing with quality debaters doesn't make you one.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
A few weeks ago your top 5 best debaters consisted of 4 PT debaters and only 1 from TOR 🙂
#exposed

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
A few weeks ago your top 5 best debaters consisted of 4 PT debaters and only 1 from TOR 🙂

Yes, and still do, but that doesn't actually change the point I'm making here. 🙂 Once you take out Nova/ILS/Temp/Beni, the Brigade gets weak af.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
@Urs....what? A debaters quality is hinged on how well he/she makes arguments. 😬

Bandwagon'ing with quality debaters doesn't make you one.

But does bandwagoning with sh*t debaters as you do make you sh*t? mmm

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
....what? A debaters quality is hinged on how well he/she makes arguments. 😬

Well, we may have different definitions of arguments.
It is mainly how you represent your argument, and how good your rhetoric is.
An example for good rhetoric would be Ziggy, or Nai.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Yes, and still do, but that doesn't actually change the point I'm making here. 🙂 Once you take out Nova/ILS/Temp/Beni, the Brigade gets weak af.

Nah. We still have Zoltan, then 🙂
Edit: And Ellimist.

Az is shaping up to be a quality debatur tbh.

And of course Temp.

But DC is right, heavyweights like Leg, Neph and AP are much better.

Originally posted by SunRazer
I'm curious as to what caused DC's recent shift in mindset, tbh.

I used to be blinded like you guys until I saw the light. I am above petty TOR vs PT arguments tat make even quality debaters adopt retarded stances.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Well, we may have different definitions of arguments.
It is mainly how you represent your argument, and how good your rhetoric is.
An example for good rhetoric would be Ziggy, or Nai.

Nai is a quality debater, I just disagree on 99.99% of his stances, lmao.

Ziggy on other hand, is just a case of, as Shawn Carter would put it: "Just because you don't understand him that doesn't mean he nice, that just mean you don't understand all the bullshit that he writes".

Naturally is Nai a very good debater, but he has awesome rhetoric.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
What an utterly retarded outlook to have, lal. Debating ability should be judged by who makes the better arguments, not the stance of said arguments. If not, you're just being bias to which one fits your arbitrary rankings. Rather than point articulation, ingenuity, overall intellect, etc.

Which is how most users actually judge a debater's "skill", nowadays. You'll obviously root more for the debater who's ranking is closer to your own, than the reverse, unless an argumenti so well crafted it makes you change your opinion entirely.

However, arguments like that are rare, mostly due to most forum users already clinging tightly to a respective head-canon ranking.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
The rest of your post is just aimless chest beating, and bias debating rankings so I'm just going to ignore.

And your original post wasn't?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
But does bandwagoning with sh*t debaters as you do make you sh*t? mmm

Except, I don't bandwagon babe. I come up with my own arguments too occasionally. 🙂

Sure you do. 🙂

Which is how most users actually judge a debater's "skill", nowadays.

Hence, the reason Star Wars debating is as shit as it is today.

And your original post wasn't?

Not really, no. Especially not the "chest beating" part. I'll let other judge the quality of my debating prowess, or lack thereof.