Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Hence, the reason Star Wars debating is as shit as it is today.
Quite.
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Not really, no. Especially not the "chest beating" part. I'll let other judge the quality of my debating prowess, or lack thereof.
I guess, yeah. But really, today's judgement of debating prowess really is just how much you actually agree with the conclusion, not the quality of the argument with which the conclusion is reached.
Originally posted by AncientPower
I'm so 'dumb', that I have a Mastery in the Arts of Business Administration from UP Diliman and earn the equivalent of US$84,700 a month for taking paid-in-contract business trips around Manila, Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong all year round.But I'm sure I'm a retard who gets to spend half her day on beaches whilst the bunch of you are doing homework. 😂
LOL wow, Myth triggered the f**k out of AP.
Anyway, shit thread.
Yoda bending back Sidious' Lightning is several orders of magnitude above Revan being burned to a crisp by Vitiate's Lightning. Lifting dozens, if not hundreds of droidekas high into the sky with a hand raise is beyond Revan's caliber. Smashing together two vessels that are several hundreds of meters long, wide and tall with enough force to destroy them is beyond Revan's caliber.
So Sidious is superior, because Yoda can bend his lightning back?
I mean ignoring circular wank, Revan was easily replicating all of Yoda's prior tutaminis feats and when he faced Vitiate he was very quickly down and out.
Revan vastly improved by the time of SOR, he gained three centuries of insight into the Emperor's mind and was stated to have intensified his power dramatically.
Yet Vitiate as of Yavin IV would be far too powerful for Revan in his prime to contend with, Vitiate as of Ziost finally replenished his Force reserves and the absorbed Ziost. Making him much more powerful than before.
The only way to argue out of this, is to lowball Revan's best feats, Revan doesn't even need to be as powerful as Yoda for this scaling to remain accurate.
The Outlander, Lana Beniko and Senya combined managed to pull the Gravestone out of its burial site. Revan is far more powerful than them combined.
Vaylin ripped a generator apart that was the size of a skyscraper, yet she's vastly inferior to Revan herself.
Just because Revan doesn't have OCW wank to contend with, doesn't mean he isn't capable of doing so.
It's hardly circular. I didn't cite that Sidious was superior to Vitiate because his Lightning could overpower Yoda. Sidious still has his natural scaling, his lightsaber bending, etc.
In other words, "ignoring Yoda's best feat because I can't deal with it", Revan's matched Yoda's Tutaminis feats?
Also, your quote is from the perspective of Darth Marr, who doesn't have an accurate handle on either of Revan or Vitiate's abilities.
OCW wank? TOR portrays Force users in one of the most hyperbolic manners to date, and yet they still have non-Force sensitives beating them 😂