Could Obi Wan replicate Maul's showing against Sidious?

Started by Azronger11 pages

Nah, even Yoda has no chance if Sidious goes all-out. He's been stated to be able to defeat him in a pure lightsaber duel, has already defeated him in the Force and Yoda has no way to kill him. Obi-Wan wouldn't contribute shit and he's absolutely right in his statement I posted on the previous page.

Originally posted by Azronger
Nah, even Yoda has no chance if Sidious goes all-out. He's been stated to be able to defeat him in a pure lightsaber duel, has already defeated him in the Force and Yoda has no way to kill him. Obi-Wan wouldn't contribute shit and he's absolutely right in his statement I posted on the previous page.

So you're saying Yoda would win 0/10 against Sidious?

Yoda seemed more powerful in ROTS then Sidious did. Sidious has the "OH ****!!!" look on his face twice. First time when Yoda caught that Senate pod and reversed it's momentum back at Sidous and the second time when he pushed Sidious' lightning back towards him. Three if you count the time Yoda force pushed him across his office into his chair.

I agree, he definitely had a chance.

Originally posted by Rebel95
I agree, he definitely had a chance.
He only had a small window to fight Sidious before the Stormtroopers showed up.

Originally posted by Azronger
He's been stated to be able to defeat him in a pure lightsaber duel,

Where? The script has Yoda disarming Sidious in the Saber duel. And the film doesn't contradict that.

Originally posted by Beniboybling

What you need to stop doing is treating a "rage amp" as some kind of external fuel, its not, its just the matter of triggering an emotional state in which you can effectively draw on the dark side. But Maul needs no help in achieving that state. He's already there.

I'm inclined to agree. Plus I don't recall any source confirming he was rage amped in Legends or Canon.

Originally posted by Azronger
Nah, even Yoda has no chance if Sidious goes all-out. He's been stated to be able to defeat him in a pure lightsaber duel, has already defeated him in the Force and Yoda has no way to kill him. Obi-Wan wouldn't contribute shit and he's absolutely right in his statement I posted on the previous page.
So you're a Sidious fanboy. This post makes that very clear.

Originally posted by Rebel95
So you're saying Yoda would win 0/10 against Sidious?

Yes, if Sidious went all-out.

Originally posted by Azronger
Yes, if Sidious went all-out.

What you don't think he went all out on Yoda?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Yoda seemed more powerful in ROTS then Sidious did. Sidious has the "OH ****!!!" look on his face twice. First time when Yoda caught that Senate pod and reversed it's momentum back at Sidous and the second time when he pushed Sidious' lightning back towards him. Three if you count the time Yoda force pushed him across his office into his chair.

Not true.

The Jedi Master and the Sith Lord dueled in the Senate chamber, but Sidious was too strong for Yoda to defeat.

-Databank: Coruscant History Gallery

Darth Sidious overwhelmed Master Yoda with the destructive energy of the dark side, and the Jedi Master fled Coruscant.

-Databank: Darth Sidious

Yoda is eventually outmatched by Sidious.

-Databank: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith Story Gallery

There're others, too.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Where? The script has Yoda disarming Sidious in the Saber duel. And the film doesn't contradict that.

Outwardly frail, Palpatine was in truth a cunning warrior capable of besting even the greatest Jedi warrior in lightsaber combat or by conjuring powerfully destructive Force lightning.

http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-101-servants-of-the-dark-side

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What you don't think he went all out on Yoda?

Apparently not. Even Yoda only went all-out during the middle of the duel according to the junior novel.

Originally posted by Azronger
Outwardly frail, Palpatine was in truth a cunning warrior capable of besting even the greatest Jedi warrior in lightsaber combat or by conjuring powerfully destructive Force lightning.

http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-101-servants-of-the-dark-side

Pretty sure those articles are not canon.

In any case it only says "capable of besting.." That doesn't mean Yoda isn't also capable of besting Palpatine.

Edit: In fact I just checked and it's Justin Bolger who wrote the article. He doesn't officially work for Lucasfilm. They've just posted that article of his.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Pretty sure those articles are not canon.

Really?

In any case it only says "capable of besting.." That doesn't mean Yoda isn't also capable of besting Palpatine.

Never said he wasn't.

Edit: In fact I just checked and it's Justin Bolger who wrote the article. He doesn't officially work for Lucasfilm. They've just posted that article of his.

Ah, okay. Nevermind, then.

Originally posted by Azronger
Really?

IIrc Ant linked a tweet saying they aren't.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Pretty sure those articles are not canon.

👆

Originally posted by Azronger

Never said he wasn't.

Well you said Yoda has no way to kill him. Obviously if he can beat him in a Lightsaber fight then he could just stab him in the face. Not guaranteed still, but once he beats him in a duel it's certainly very possible.

Originally posted by Azronger
Not true.

The Jedi Master and the Sith Lord dueled in the Senate chamber, but Sidious was too strong for Yoda to defeat.

-Databank: Coruscant History Gallery

Darth Sidious overwhelmed Master Yoda with the destructive energy of the dark side, and the Jedi Master fled Coruscant.

-Databank: Darth Sidious

Yoda is eventually outmatched by Sidious.

-Databank: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith Story Gallery

There're others, too.


Also, what's the point of quoting three things from the same source?

Originally posted by Rebel95
Interesting. Do you think Obi Wan and Yoda could have defeated Sidious together in ROTS?

Of course, Yoda was almost all that was needed anyways.