'Heartbeat bill' abortion ban clears Ohio House. Oh LoLhio

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'Heartbeat bill' abortion ban clears Ohio House. Oh LoLhio

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A bill that would make Ohio's abortion laws the strictest in the nation is on its way to Gov. John Kasich's desk just hours after Republicans slipped the "heartbeat bill" into a child welfare bill.

The Ohio House approved Senate amendments to the bill late Tuesday night, mostly along party lines, in a 56-39 vote. Earlier in the day, Senate Republicans added language banning abortions once a fetal heartbeat is detected, commonly known as the "heartbeat bill," to an unrelated measure. That could be as early as six weeks into a pregnancy, before a woman might find out she's pregnant.

Democrats adamantly opposed the bill, saying it would risk women's health and trigger an expensive lawsuit on the back of taxpayers.

If Kasich signs the bill, Ohio will be the third state to pass such a law. Courts have found Arkansas and North Dakota laws unconstitutional, the U.S. 8th Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld those lower-court rulings, and the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear further appeal. -snip

Full story: http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/12/heartbeat_bill_abortion_ban_cl.html

The party of small government, individual liberty, and fiscal responsibility strikes again!

I guess if you live in Ohio and you don't want a kid? Don't have unprotected sex.

I know, weird right? Now someone please bring up abortions in the case of rape or a risk to the mother in order to side step that discussion.

Birth control isn't 100% effective; they teach you this in high school. You've never had a condom break on you?

This law is written to not allow exceptions for rape or incest.

Originally posted by Robtard
Birth control isn't 100% effective; they teach you this in high school. You've never had a condom break on you?

This law is written to not allow exceptions for rape or incest.

Lol I hate condoms. Any girl I've been with has been on birth control.

But hey so what about changing the law so if you can prove you used BC and it failed you can get an abortion? Would you be down with that?

Women's birth control can fail as well. This is also taught in high school.

1) How would you prove that? 2)Why are we talking about shit that's not going to happen instead of reality. This bill is one signature away from being law.

More importantly, this could spread to other states.

Originally posted by Surtur
I guess if you live in Ohio and you don't want a kid? Don't have unprotected sex.

I know, weird right? Now someone please bring up abortions in the case of rape or a risk to the mother in order to side step that discussion.

This same law was found unconstitutional in two other states, so it will not withstand a court challenge, which their invariably will be. And when the state inevitably loses, the tax payers will be left holding the bill. But who cares about passing blatantly unconstitutional laws that will leave tax payers in the lurch, when we can use government to broadcast how morally superior with think we are because we are not seeking an abortion. If you do not want to get pregnant, keep those legs together, ladies!

Originally posted by Robtard
Women's birth control can fail as well. This is also taught in high school.

1) How would you prove that? 2)Why are we talking about shit that's not going to happen instead of reality. This bill is one signature away from being law.

More importantly, this could spread to other states.

I'm trying to offer alternatives. If you want to use the excuse that BC can fail..you can show you had a prescription for it.

As opposed to just a blanket of "for whatever reason you want, get it" in which we remove 100% of responsibility for any sexual actions.

The problem now, PoE, we have a broken SC because Republicans are blocking Obama from doing his job and Trump gets to appoint the missing judge after he takes office.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If you do not want to get pregnant, keep those legs together, ladies!

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Originally posted by Robtard
The problem now, PoE, we have a broken SC because Republicans are blocking Obama from doing his job and Trump gets to appoint the missing judge after he takes office.

What specific part of his job are they blocking? Isn't it part of their jobs to..be able to block stuff? Unless they are doing so illegally?

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm trying to offer alternatives. If you want to use the excuse that BC can fail..you can show you had a prescription for it.

As opposed to just a blanket of "for whatever reason you want, get it" in which we remove 100% of responsibility for any sexual actions.

I'm not the one who brought in "well then don't have unprotected sex!" as some sort of argument, you did.

So you want to be able to tell people (namely women) what they can and can't do with their lives and bodies.

Isn't it funny that the same people who want others to be accountable for the sex they're having, are also the ones who oppose sex (same-sex) that can't lead to a pregnancy.

Originally posted by Surtur
What specific part of his job are they blocking? Isn't it part of their jobs to..be able to block stuff? Unless they are doing so illegally?

The president has a constitutional right to nominate and appoint supreme court justices. The Republicans have effectively said "we're not letting Obama pick no matter what, the next president should get to."

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm not the one who brought in "well then don't have unprotected sex!" as some sort of argument, you did.

If the law happens..they need to embrace that lol. It's not 100% protective, sure, but having a 99% chance of stopping pregnancy is better than none at all.

So you want to be able to tell people (namely women) what they can and can't do with their lives and bodies.

To be truthful I just want men to be able to shirk all responsibility for a child in the same way a female can.

Isn't it funny that the same people who want others to be accountable for the sex they're having, are also the ones who oppose sex (same-sex) that can't lead to a pregnancy.

That is funny I guess. Hypocrisy can be funny, like when people whined a bakery didn't wanna serve gays cuz they were gay, but had no problems with people pulling businesses out of a certain state because they wanted people to use the proper bathroom.

But anyways back to what you said, I don't care much about gay marriage. They can marry each other or not. Who'd wanna get married though? If a gay guy can dick over his hubby as badly as women currently can? But if they wanna do it, then go for it.

Originally posted by Robtard
The president has a constitutional right to nominate and appoint supreme court justices. The Republicans have effectively said "we're not letting Obama pick no matter what, the next president should get to."

Okay so what you are saying is they have no legal right to block it? Since if they have a right to do that..well, you see where I'm going with this.

But then if they had no right to block it they..wouldn't be able to block it.

Originally posted by Surtur
If a gay guy can dick over his hubby as badly as women currently can? But if they wanna do it, then go for it.

LoL, dude, your dislike and distrust of women is epic; it's an ongoing thing I've noticed with you. What happened, tell.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, dude, your dislike and distrust of women is epic; it's an ongoing thing I've noticed with you. What happened, tell.

Oh well you see it started back when they constantly whined about a Patriarchy and all the advantages men have and never seem to whine about the advantages women have or take issue with it.

But dude you realize I've been saying the *exact* same thing about you and your little Poland thing, right? You still haven't told me what happened there. Lets swap traumatic stories. It's only fair for you to go first since I've been asking you what happened for a while.

Poland's a silly little country who corroborated with the Nazis and continues to make poor, sometimes laughable choices for themselves. /endrant

Your turn. Why do you dislike and distrust women so much; to the point of nigh-hatred? What happened?

Originally posted by Robtard
Poland's a silly little country who corroborated with the Nazis and continues to make poor, sometimes laughable choices for themselves. /endrant

So you never called Bardock Germany..because? Gimme reasons, have them make sense.

Your turn. Why do you dislike and distrust women so much; to the point of nigh-hatred? What happened?

Well I don't hate women though. I can point out how they can dick over a man in a marriage without hating them, correct?

I've just seem women destroy lives and do shit without getting called on it, when if a man had behaved in that manner..they'd get called on it. I'm tired of the hypocrisy.

If you're asking if a woman destroyed my life? No, but then I've never gotten cancer either and I yet I hate to see others come down with it.

Originally posted by Surtur
So you never called Bardock Germany..because?

Well I don't hate women though. I can point out how they can dick over a man in a marriage without hating them, correct?

I've just seem women destroy lives and do shit without getting called on it, when if a man had behaved in that manner..they'd get called on it. I'm tired of the hypocrisy.

I have in fact referred to Bardock as "Germany" before.

LoL. dude. You openly dislike women. Look how you point out how a woman can "dick over a man" in a marriage, yet refuse to acknowledge that a man can do the same to a woman. That's biased hatred. Deep-seated some would say.

Oh well, was hoping for some unfiltered truth instead of BS. I carried out my end of the bargain. Back to the topic I guess.