Bane Vs The Winter Soldier

Started by Silent Master25 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
That was in retaliation for the posters equating showings. I was using Batman's average strength, which is peak human. If Bane no sells Batman then he can take a couple of blows from Bucky without being koed.

Sure, as long as WS holds back enough.

BTW, you didn't do it in retaliation, you did it because you like Bane more and this doing it in "retaliation" argument is just you trying to cover up your blatant hypocrisy.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I fail to see what any of that has to do with this thread, seeing as it has already been pointed out that multiple different feats (strength, striking and overall combat) have been used to support arguments for Winter Soldier. Now, if someone had just said, "Bucky pulled a steering column from a car, so he pulls Bane's spine out", without referencing any other feats to indicate consistent power/strength levels, then you would have grounds for that argument.

Of course, now that I gave that example, somebody will probably go and say it, just to be a wise-ass. 😆

Jeezus man. That's not what I'm talking about at all. Please try to understand.
I'm talking about Bucky pulling a steering column being equated to him punching Cap in order to prove Caps durability. Not him pulling a steering column to display what type of strength he will be operating at in a forum. My problem is the faulty abc logic used.

Anyway, I prefer to use averages and suspension of disbelief. WS can definitely beat Bane in h2h but it will take at least a minute to do. Bane is highly intelligent and will not allow Bucky to hit him with the metal arm.

It'll only take a minute if Bane starts out 56 seconds away.

Originally posted by h1a8
Jeezus man. That's not what I'm talking about at all. Please try to understand.
I'm talking about Bucky pulling a steering column being equated to him punching Cap in order to prove Caps durability. Not him pulling a steering column to display what type of strength he will be operating at in a forum. My problem is the faulty abc logic used.

I completely understand what you are saying. But no one has done so. People have referenced strength feats to showcase his strength (for example, overpowering people like Cap, suitless Black Panther etc.). They have used striking feats to show his striking (like the car punch, elevator punch, concrete punches etc.). They have used overall combat showings to indicate his overall combat effectiveness (like holding his own against Cap, BP, and stomping 3 highly skilled regular humans in under half a minute etc.). So, your complaint is invalid. If you disagree, feel free to quote the posts where people were doing what you are claiming.

Originally posted by h1a8
Anyway, I prefer to use averages and suspension of disbelief. WS can definitely beat Bane in h2h but it will take at least a minute to do. Bane is highly intelligent and will not allow Bucky to hit him with the metal arm.

Bucky isn't some idiot either. The guy operated as HYDRA's top assassin since WW2. Just because Bane doesn't want to get hit with that arm, doesn't mean it automatically won't happen.

Originally posted by h1a8
I could have sworn the op said h2h. I definitely saw "h2h". Did he edit the OP? I double checked.

Then you are dreaming or lying as I kept an eye on the thread from start to finish and I KNOW he never changed it.

Now quit stalling (cuz you obviously are), offer rebuttal or concede.

Originally posted by h1a8
I could have sworn the op said h2h. I definitely saw "h2h". Did he edit the OP? I double checked.

Seeing as we lose the ability to edit after 15 minutes and that even if he got a mod to do it after the 15 minutes were up, it would have left an edit tag. do you really except people to believe you?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Then you are dreaming or lying as I kept an eye on the thread from start to finish and I KNOW he never changed it.

Now quit stalling (cuz you obviously are), offer rebuttal,or concede.

I concede as I don't think Bane carries guns as standard equipment. But if that's the case then why isn't the thread closed for spite? Obviously a h2h fight would have made better sense. Maybe I confused threads idk

Originally posted by h1a8
I concede as I don't think Bane carries guns as standard equipment. But if that's the case then why isn't the thread closed for spite? Obviously a h2h fight would have made better sense. Maybe I confused threads idk

Because no one reported it as spite? Feel free to do so if you want.

Good. In which case:

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Then you agree that based on the stips of this thread, Bane loses in 3-5 seconds?

Good.

Game. Set. Match.

That was easy.

Originally posted by h1a8
Bane is highly intelligent and will not allow Bucky to hit him with the metal arm.

Bucky doesnt need the Metal Arm to KO or kill Bane with just blows from his limbs (sans Metal arm)

Originally posted by Inhuman
Bucky doesnt need the Metal Arm to KO or kill Bane with just blows from his limbs (sans Metal arm)
It would be very difficult for WS to ko Bane without the metal arm. Remember, Bane NO SELL hits from Batman. Plus WS didn't ko regular humans with his hits (Tony Stark).
If WS could then it would take many hits to do.

Originally posted by h1a8
It would be very difficult for WS to ko Bane without the metal arm. Remember, Bane NO SELL hits from Batman. Plus WS didn't ko regular humans with his hits (Tony Stark).
If WS could then it would take many hits to do.
You're a joke.

All debate is pointless at this point. He already conceded.

Originally posted by h1a8
I concede as I don't think....
Originally posted by h1a8
It would be very difficult for WS to ko Bane without the metal arm. Remember, Bane NO SELL hits from Batman. Plus WS didn't ko regular humans with his hits (Tony Stark).
If WS could then it would take many hits to do.

I believe you mean it would be extremely easy for Winter Soldier to KO Bane even without the metal arm.

I see the jokester is still talking stupidity

Originally posted by Silent Master
I believe you mean it would be extremely easy for Winter Soldier to KO Bane even without the metal arm.

No it wouldn't. Even if Bane just stood there and let WS hit him with punches to the face then it would take quite a few punches to ko Bane. Remember Bane no sold Batman's haymakers. WS didn't ko Tony with a punch to the face. These two instances prove that it would take many blows from WS non metal arm to ko Bane.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
All debate is pointless at this point. He already conceded.

We are debating something else instead of the stips of the thread. You can participate if you like.

Originally posted by Mindset
You're a joke.

Not true.

Since when has one been considered quite a few?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Since when has one been considered quite a few?
I don't understand this post.

There seems to be a lot of things you don't understand.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Bucky doesnt need the Metal Arm to KO or kill Bane with just blows from his limbs (sans Metal arm)

You'll notice that h1 is basing Bane's durability to strikes on his best feat, while basing WS's striking ability on his lowest feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
We are debating something else instead of the stips of the thread. You can participate if you like.

You mean derailing the thread?

They're right. WS doesn't need to hit him with his metal arm.

Just shoot the sh!t out of him.

This fight has been decided. This is spite vs Bane, don't you agree?