Originally posted by Silent Master
WS would have zero trouble hitting and ko'ing Bane.
Funny how, when people, like KingD and others, referenced multiple striking- and combat showings from Winter Soldier, H1 claimed you can't equate "one" showing to all others. Yet, in his latest post, he is trying to equate Bane's durability off a single separate striking feat of Batman's.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Funny how, when people, like KingD and others, referenced [B]multiple striking- and combat showings from Winter Soldier, H1 claimed you can't equate "one" showing to all others. Yet, in his latest post, he is trying to equate Bane's durability off a single separate striking feat of Batman's. [/B]
h1 is well known for his double standards.
Originally posted by h1a8
WS would have problems hitting Bane with the metal arm. Bane can easily tank hits from the normal arm without much damage.Here's one argument.
Batman casually koed a human with a backfist snap. Yet he couldn't do much to Bane with full haymakers. Thus Bane is many times more durable than a human.
lol. Baleman has trouble taking out Joker and even had trouble with a few dogs. Bane got defeated by an old, out of shape Batman who had recently had his back broken and was confined in a prison.
WS easily defeats Bane even with his metal arm tied behind his back.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Why do you even post?
To teach the bias about logic.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Funny how, when people, like KingD and others, referenced [B]multiple striking- and combat showings from Winter Soldier, H1 claimed you can't equate "one" showing to all others. Yet, in his latest post, he is trying to equate Bane's durability off a single separate striking feat of Batman's. [/B]
You missed my point. I wasn't arguing that you can't equate a feat with the representation of a forum character. I was arguing that you can't equate a showing with another showing. Totally different. For example, Supergirl casually lifting 500 million tons doesn't mean she punched someone with that same force (assuming she used all her might).
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Pls present argument for how Bane handles getting shot mulltiple times.
Originally posted by h1a8
To teach the bias about logic.You missed my point. I wasn't arguing that you can't equate a feat with the representation of a forum character. I was arguing that you can't equate a showing with another showing. Totally different. For example, Supergirl casually lifting 500 million tons doesn't mean she punched someone with that same force (assuming she used all her might).
Shooting? What are you talking about?
This is a h2h match. If it were a shooting match then it could go either way.
Like basing Bane's durability on striking feats Baleman performed in another scene?
Originally posted by h1a8
Shooting? What are you talking about?
This is a h2h match. If it were a shooting match then it could go either way.
Are you retarded? Or are you just trying to drag this out because you know you don fuxed up?
Reread the stips. It is Bane vs WS. TWS version WS as clarified by the OP who btw carries 2 pistols as standard gear. No mention of h2h only. Bane carries no firearms as standard gear.
As per forum rules, standard gear applies. WS closes distance and shoots Bane in the face, neck, arms, etc. Do you want a mod ruling? These are basic forum rules.
Either offer rebuttal within the thread stips or concede.
Bucky wins in 3-5 seconds.
Originally posted by h1a8
You missed my point. I wasn't arguing that you can't equate a feat with the representation of a forum character. I was arguing that you can't equate a showing with another showing. Totally different. For example, Supergirl casually lifting 500 million tons doesn't mean she punched someone with that same force (assuming she used all her might).
The fact that you felt the need to post that means you missed the other people's points (plural), seeing as they provided multiple combat- and striking (not simply strength) feats.
And why do you keep bringing Supergirl into this? This is not a CW show we are debating. Even if shows/movies have inconsistencies (which some writers take pains to avoid), that doesn't mean that every show/movie has the same level. CW shows are known for massive fluctuations, even when compared to the vast majority of other comicbook tv/movie properties. For example, in the one episode for The Flash, Savitar moves around so quickly he is virtually teleporting, but, in that same scene, he gets hit by Caitlin's ice. Compare it to Netflix Luke Cage. For all the other faults it might have, his powers are pretty damn consistent over the 13 episode series. He can tank the same kind of damage across the episodes, his strength feats are quite consistent, and any other fluctuations are explained via dialogue (like Luke openly admitting very early on that he holds back against regular humans, so as not to kill them, which is further reinforced by them showing us multiple instances where he can KO people with slaps/taps). So, bringing up CW shows as an example doesn't work when talking about a completely different property, written by different people.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The fact that you felt the need to post that means you missed the other people's points (plural), seeing as they provided multiple combat- and striking (not simply strength) feats.And why do you keep bringing Supergirl into this? This is not a CW show we are debating. Even if shows/movies have inconsistencies (which some writers take pains to avoid), that doesn't mean that every show/movie has the same level. CW shows are known for massive fluctuations, even when compared to the vast majority of other comicbook tv/movie properties. For example, in the one episode for The Flash, Savitar moves around so quickly he is virtually teleporting, but, in that same scene, he gets hit by Caitlin's ice. Compare it to Netflix Luke Cage. For all the other faults it might have, his powers are pretty damn consistent over the 13 episode series. He can tank the same kind of damage across the episodes, his strength feats are quite consistent, and any other fluctuations are explained via dialogue (like Luke openly admitting very early on that he holds back against regular humans, so as not to kill them, which is further reinforced by them showing us multiple instances where he can KO people with slaps/taps). So, bringing up CW shows as an example doesn't work when talking about a completely different property, written by different people.
I am not referring to people using multiple feats to back up their claim. My problem is when people start equating feats with other showings. For example, considered this argument.
"Superman can't even harm Thanos. Surfer who can blow up planets couldn't do anything to Thanos."
See the fallacy there?
The person is equating the time Surfer blew up a planet to the time he blasted Thanos. Clearly, the two blasts are totally different in power levels.
Originally posted by h1a8
I am not referring to people using multiple feats to back up their claim. My problem is when people start equating feats with other showings. For example, considered this argument.
"Superman can't even harm Thanos. Surfer who can blow up planets couldn't do anything to Thanos."See the fallacy there?
The person is equating the time Surfer blew up a planet to the time he blasted Thanos. Clearly, the two blasts are totally different in power levels.
I fail to see what any of that has to do with this thread, seeing as it has already been pointed out that multiple different feats (strength, striking and overall combat) have been used to support arguments for Winter Soldier. Now, if someone had just said, "Bucky pulled a steering column from a car, so he pulls Bane's spine out", without referencing any other feats to indicate consistent power/strength levels, then you would have grounds for that argument.
Of course, now that I gave that example, somebody will probably go and say it, just to be a wise-ass. 😆
Originally posted by h1a8
I am not referring to people using multiple feats to back up their claim. My problem is when people start equating feats with other showings. For example, considered this argument.
"Superman can't even harm Thanos. Surfer who can blow up planets couldn't do anything to Thanos."See the fallacy there?
The person is equating the time Surfer blew up a planet to the time he blasted Thanos. Clearly, the two blasts are totally different in power levels.
Like you did for Bane's durability?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Are you retarded? Or are you just trying to drag this out because you know you don fuxed up?Reread the stips. It is Bane vs WS. TWS version WS as clarified by the OP who btw carries 2 pistols as standard gear. No mention of h2h only. Bane carries no firearms as standard gear.
As per forum rules, standard gear applies. WS closes distance and shoots Bane in the face, neck, arms, etc. Do you want a mod ruling? These are basic forum rules.
Either offer rebuttal within the thread stips or concede.
Bucky wins in 3-5 seconds.
I could have sworn the op said h2h. I definitely saw "h2h". Did he edit the OP? I double checked.