Originally posted by Surtur
Judge characters based on their high end consistent feats. So no feats of Superman being harmed by a gas station explosion to be used. Or feats of Superman punching God himself in the face to be used.
So what happens when someone like Darkseid, or the LT is used in a thread?
They have no feats - although, personally, I view fights as feats...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Wonder Woman. Sneak attacks an injured Batman OUTSIDE of his armour. Fails to put him down. And yes, she's mind controlled - but she's smashing him THROUGH concrete floors. Dropping from from height. Hitting him with enough force to blast through bulletproof glass.
Does this mean Batman is soloing the entire Street tier? WW had the God of War amp at this time, too.
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Why are you clinging to Batman when we know he is a walking hax? He has kicked God in the face. Let's not focus on Batman and squirrel Girl, let's use characters outside of this. Now can you stop avoiding my questions with Batman and answer it please.
Originally posted by carver9
Why are you clinging to Batman when we know he is a walking hax? He has kicked God in the face. Let's not focus on Batman and squirrel Girl, let's use characters outside of this. Now can you stop avoiding my questions with Batman and answer it please.
Not avoiding.
You're saying fights are important - more than feats.
What happens with Squirrel Girl (who has no feats, but plenty of fights) and Batman?
Deathstroke?
These are exactly answering your question. They have no 'feats' to suggest they can hang with the WWs and Thanoses, and Dooms, but they have fights to say yes, they can.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not avoiding.You're saying fights are important - more than feats.
What happens with Squirrel Girl (who has no feats, but plenty of fights) and Batman?
Deathstroke?
These are exactly answering your question. They have no 'feats' to suggest they can hang with the WWs and Thanoses, and Dooms, but they have fights to say yes, they can.
That's not what I am saying. I accept fights more than anything. My question to you was, where does Captain Marvel compare to Superman or even Wonder Woman. Both these characters have pulled moons and Earth together; Cap doesn't share this luxury. Is Cap on their level. Please answer this question without throwing Captain America, Squirrel Girl, and Batman into this.
Originally posted by carver9
That's not what I am saying. I accept fights more than anything. My question to you was, where does Captain Marvel compare to Superman or even Wonder Woman. Both these characters have pulled moons and Earth together; Cap doesn't share this luxury. Is Cap on their level. Please answer this question without throwing Captain America, Squirrel Girl, and Batman into this.
Why don't you accept Cap America, Squirrel Girl, Bats etc?
They have the fights to show they can hang with WW, Thanos, Hulk, Doom etc. Just like Cap Billy has the fights to show he can hang.
They don't, however, have the luxury of pulling moons or whatever. Just like Cap.
Are they on WW's level? Thanos'? If not, why not?
Is it because you think their fights with WW etc are.....PIS? That their opponents were lowered, to make for an exciting/fun story?
If so, why?
Is it because they lack the feats?
I am helping you, step by step, to answer your question.
You are asking for help understanding, and here I am. And yet, you want to argue. Do you want to learn or not????
Or is this just a thinly veiled bait thread to further your agenda?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why don't you accept Cap America, Squirrel Girl, Bats etc?They have the fights to show they can hang with WW, Thanos, Hulk, Doom etc. Just like Cap Billy has the fights to show he can hang.
They don't, however, have the luxury of pulling moons or whatever. Just like Cap.
Are they on WW's level? Thanos'? If not, why not?
Is it because you think their fights with WW etc are.....PIS? That their opponents were lowered, to make for an exciting/fun story?
If so, why?
Is it because they lack the feats?
I am helping you, step by step, to answer your question.
You are asking for help understanding, and here I am. And yet, you want to argue. Do you want to learn or not????
Or is this just a thinly veiled bait thread to further your agenda?
I'm asking you a question not surrounded by characters based off plot...character plot. I guess it will not be answered, so I'm leaving it be. My answer mentally with these characters are already there. Yes, Cap is on their level. I was trying to see where your mind was at.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm asking you a question not surrounded by characters based off plot...character plot. I guess it will not be answered, so I'm leaving it be. My answer mentally with these characters are already there. Yes, Cap is on their level. I was trying to see where your mind was at.
Based on what, Cap's fights? But then, how do you know that they are not driven by plot? They're not real, you know. Writers don't sit down with a computer model, feed their stats in and write accordingly.
If the plot calls for Supes to shake Cap's hand, and they both acknowledge each other as peers - that is what will happen.
If the plot calls for a bloodlusted GoW WW to sneak attack an injured Bats and not kill (or even KO) him, then that's what will happen.
But, it looks like a bait thread, where you tried to trip people up - but no one was, alas.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Based on what, Cap's fights? But then, how do you know that they are not driven by plot? They're not real, you know. Writers don't sit down with a computer model, feed their stats in and write accordingly.If the plot calls for Supes to shake Cap's hand, and they both acknowledge each other as peers - that is what will happen.
If the plot calls for a bloodlusted GoW WW to sneak attack an injured Bats and not kill (or even KO) him, then that's what will happen.
But, it looks like a bait thread, where you tried to trip people up - but no one was, alas.
Based off fights, yes.
I think we are done here because you're on the verge of crying again and I don't have time to Pat grown men on the back. I didn't ask you to comment in this thread so if you thought (which it isn't) it was a bait thread, you shouldn't have posted in it.
Originally posted by carver9
Based off fights, yes.I think we are done here because you're on the verge of crying again and I don't have time to Pat grown men on the back. I didn't ask you to comment in this thread so if you thought (which it isn't) it was a bait thread, you shouldn't have posted in it.
Based off fights - are you trying to say comic fights aren't plot driven?
Well, you said you were confused, and was asking for help (OP):
Originally posted by carver9
I'm confused on this and KMC is full of highly intelligent people to help me with my question.
Then said your mind was already made up:
Originally posted by carver9
My answer mentally with these characters are already there.
So....you kinda snitched on yourself, lol.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Based off fights - are you trying to say comic fights aren't plot driven?Well, you said you were confused, and was asking for help (OP):
Then said your mind was already made up:
So....you kinda snitched on yourself, lol.
Me being confused doesn't take away from me having my own thoughts on the topic. I have been debating on here for 13 + yrs ya know...lol.
My mind is made up about the CHARACTERS, not the topic, Judge Judy.
With that said, since you're getting off topic, cry baby, I'll respond to others instead of wasting energy on someone who goals are to dissect everything I say.
Carver, I will provide the DEFINITIVE answer to your question.
EXHIBIT A- Sungod VERSUS Hulk
Here, Sungod, clearly displays his superiority over the Hulk in a way that NO ONE can dispute.
EXHIBIT B- Hyperion VERSUS HULK
This provides the MOST DEFINITIVE proof on how to apply both feats and fights.
Here, Hyperion, Dominates, Hulk, to the point where......
HYPERION PUNCHES THE GAMMA RADIATION OUT OF THE HULK.
As with, Sungod, this CLEARLY places, Hyperion, above The Hulk
I hope this answers your question, Carver!
Have a great weekend!
Originally posted by carver9
Me being confused doesn't take away from me having my own thoughts on the topic. I have been debating on here for 13 + yrs ya know...lol.My mind is made up about the CHARACTERS, not the topic, Judge Judy.
With that said, since you're getting off topic, cry baby, I'll respond to others instead of wasting energy on someone whos goals are to dissect everything I say.
Hey now:
Originally posted by carver9
let's keep this convo civil.
Name-calling? All I did was respond to a thread you created on a public forum. You responded to me, and I kept the conversation going.
I don't know why you're suddenly name-calling, and saying I'm off topic, when all I am doing is quoting your own things. In your own thread.
Fights are plot-driven.
Reported.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hey now:Name-calling? All I did was respond to a thread you created on a public forum. You responded to me, and I kept the conversation going.
I don't know why you're suddenly name-calling, and saying I'm off topic, when all I am doing is quoting your own things. In your own thread.
Fights are plot-driven.
Reported.
Cry baby is aggressive name calling? Gotcha. We are done.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Carver, I will provide the DEFINITIVE answer to your question.[b]EXHIBIT A
- Sungod VERSUS HulkHere, Sungod, clearly displays his superiority over the Hulk in a way that NO ONE can dispute.
EXHIBIT B- Hyperion VERSUS HULK
This provides the MOST DEFINITIVE proof on how to apply both feats and fights.
Here, Hyperion, Dominates, Hulk, to the point where......
HYPERION PUNCHES THE GAMMA RADIATION OUT OF THE HULK.
As with, Sungod, this CLEARLY places, Hyperion, above The Hulk
I hope this answers your question, Carver!
Have a great weekend! [/B]
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