Originally posted by SunRazer
The speed of thought isn't a very impressive benchmark when we're discussing the uppermost echelons of SW characters. Even RotJ Luke has moved within the speed of thought alone. Plagueis, whose speed decades before his prime was comparable to that of lightning, is vastly, vastly above that.Regardless, Plagueis is factually more powerful than Nihilus. He can circumvent Nihilus' defensive powers.
Am I to believe the hierarchy is "Accolades > Feats" on this site?
Sounds more like he's just holding the ship together as opposed to shielding it. He's already circumvented conditions that would result in the ship's destruction, so it's not too hard to believe.
I'm reluctant to accept that because it would be a greater feat than what I already see going on there. The ship is taking no structural damage of any kind during the bombardment from the Telos guns, and from the Dantooine academy (KOTOR 2) art, we see that Turbolasers atomize materials their bolts' hit. This would indicate Nihilus isn't just absorbing/dissipating energy, but rather binding and strengthening atoms against Turbolaser energy levels if I go with your "holding together, not shielding" view.
This would naturally extend to his personal application of the ability towards himself which would denote he would have the ability to bind his own atomical structure against Turbolaser levels of energy.
Originally posted by Miko Hacksaw
Am I to believe the hierarchy is "Accolades > Feats" on this site?I'm reluctant to accept that because it would be a greater feat than what I already see going on there. The ship is taking no structural damage of any kind during the bombardment from the Telos guns, and from the Dantooine academy (KOTOR 2) art, we see that Turbolasers atomize materials their bolts' hit. This would indicate Nihilus isn't just absorbing/dissipating energy, but rather binding and strengthening atoms against Turbolaser energy levels if I go with your "holding together, not shielding" view.
This would naturally extend to his personal application of the ability towards himself which would denote he would have the ability to bind his own atomical structure against Turbolaser levels of energy.
1. Yeah. Because feats are just so much more inconsistent.
2. That doesn't necessarily mean he's holding it steadfast against the turbolaser damage, just that even after the turbolasers inflicted their damage, Nihilus still kept the ship together. Ie. the turbolaser would've broken the ship down further on an atomic level, and Nihilus simply continued to hold it all together.
Doesn't mean it'll apply to himself since we need to factor in that Force users get injured and weakened when they're hit by attacks, which means a successful attack will diminish the potency of Nihilus' own powers.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Plagueis ragdolls an abberation that can telekinetically rip a fleet of ships out of the orbit of a gravity well? 😬
No small feat in and of itself. A low estimate of the ship's weight would be around 10 Million Tons of mass, also a low-ball speed of 1 Meter per Second. If we consider a 50,000 meter distance from Malachor V's surface to outside "atmosphere" (half of earth's), and just saying the same gravitational pull of earth, it would take around 5,000,000,000 Joules of energy per second (10M Tons @ 1 Meter per second), or 5 Gigajoules per second. Overall it would take 250,000,000,000,000 Joules of energy to raise the Ravager from surface to space. That's roughly the same amount of energy as 4 Hiroshima bombs (63 TJ of energy each).
Not to mention:
The storms of Malachor V are enough to draw down even the strongest of ships. Once on the surface, there is little chance of escape.
-KOTOR 2
I don't have to point it out, but I will (lol). In order for a ship to move itself forward, it must have enough thrust (or Force) to move its mass. Capital ships (the strongest of ships of the era) had multi-millions of tons worth of thrust as ships in sub-light speed accelerate well over 279 Kilometers per second. With that much power, they were still unable to overcome Malachor V's gravity field and were still pulled down to the planet.
Nihilus isn't just able to lift his ship, he is able to lift it out of a gravity well that had a gravitational pull stronger than the strongest ships at max power.
My above estimate should therefore be understood as an EXTREME low balling on my part.
On a side note (just a fan fun point of interest for me). If Nihilus can produce 5 GigaJoules of energy per second, he can also produce enough energy to throw a 10 pound object at 105,030 Miles per hour, or 154,045 Feet per second, or Mach 137. 😱