Originally posted by Silent Master
That was basically my point, he's confusing hacking with accessing a system. 'hacking' is what you do to get around or through the security on a system after you access it.
Yup. What Apoc did was basically just download information. It was a ridiculously difficult feat to do considering the physical medium restrictions, but there was no hacking involved.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Avengers win. Evidence matters not the popular vote you idiot.
F**k off Cumberbatch wh0r3... 💃
The evidence points to the Future Sentinels not being able to be hacked by Ultron and even Imp questions wether Ultron can do it or not...
With that in mind, sit in the corner, be silent, and dont talk until the grownups tell you...ok? 🙂
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderMake sense. Your emotions tend to make your posts seem like incoherent thoughts all strewn together.
F**k out cumberbatch ****... 💃The evidence points to the Future Sentinels not being able to be hacked by Ultron and even Imp questions wether Ultron can do it or not...
With that in mind, sit in the corner, be silent, and dont talk until the grownups tell you...ok? 🙂
No, it doesn't. Unless you can prove they have resistance then they fall victim.
That's how debating works. Ultron solos.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Make sense. Your emotions tend to make your posts seem like incoherent thoughts all strewn together.No, it doesn't. Unless you can prove they have resistance then they fall victim.
That's how debating works. Ultron solos.
I can prove that Ultron has never successfully hacked a techno-organic being; which the Future Sentinels just happen to be...
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I can also prove that Ultron has never hacked anything as advanced as the Future Sentinels...
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There is enough here to throw alot of doubt on wether Ultron could do it or not...
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Interesting comments...👆
The pulse of this thread is telling me that the majority is leaning towards Ultron not being able to hack the Future Sentinels...
And without that option, Silents entire argument for the Avenger enemies winning crumbles into dust...
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Kindly quote the post where I state which team wins.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderYoud need to prove being a techno organic being makes one resistant to being hacked. You made the claim so prove it. That's how debating works.
I can prove that Ultron has never successfully hacked a techno-organic being; which the Future Sentinels just happen to be...🙂
I can also prove that Ultron has never hacked anything as advanced as the Future Sentinels...
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There is enough here to throw alot of doubt on wether Ultron could do it or not...
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Youd need to prove being a techno organic being makes one resistant to being hacked. You made the claim so prove it. That's how debating works.
You need to prove that Ultron can hack something as advanced as a Future Sentinel when he's never done so before...
Thats how debating works...
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Originally posted by Silent Master
You didn't answer my question. plus once Ultron hacks the Sentinels, they will adapt to Magento and Apoc's powers and then it's them vs Loki, Ulton Prime, 5000 drones, 5000 Leviathans and 10000 Sentinels(that have their powers).
This is when you said that the Avengers enemies would win; stop trying to be evasive and lie...
The whole point of your post here is to argue that Ultron would immediately hack the Sentinels and then the Avenger enemy army + the Future Sentinels (which would adapt to Mags and Apocs power) would defeat Mags and Apoc.
You are very transparent to me...
I can see the truth through your B.S...
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurderWhat makes the sentinels more advanced than Ultron ??
You need to prove that Ultron can hack something as advanced as a Future Sentinel when he's never done so before...Thats how debating works...
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You keep making more claims. Ultron can hack so prove the sentinels can resist. It's really that simple. If you feel the sentinels don't fall victim you need to prove why. That's debating.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
This is when you said that the Avengers enemies would win; stop trying to be evasive and lie...The whole point of your post here is to argue that Ultron would immediately hack the Sentinels and then the Avenger enemy army + the Future Sentinels (which would adapt to Mags and Apocs power) would defeat Mags and Apoc.
You are very transparent to me...
I can see the truth through your B.S...
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At no point in that quite did I say who would win .
Originally posted by quanchi112
What makes the sentinels more advanced than Ultron ??You keep making more claims. Ultron can hack so prove the sentinels can resist. It's really that simple. If you feel the sentinels don't fall victim you need to prove why. That's debating.
Being large, fast, agile, techo-organic beings, who can not only fly and are completely immune to magnetism but have the amazing capability to adapt to any mutant power (and the movie states this directly)...
The Ultron Clones were pathetically weak; a small, normal, woman can destroy one with a taser...
Superhumanly powerful opponents (like Colossus) could not defeat a Future Sentinel in melee combat; Black Widow wouldnt last 10 seconds against a Future Sentinel if she attacked one with a taser...
The Future Sentinels were far beyond the Ultron Clones...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderWhat does that have to do with being hacked ?
Being large, fast, agile, techo-organic beings, who can not only fly and are completely immune to magnetism but have the amazing capability to adapt to [b]any mutant power (and the movie states this directly)...The Ultron Clones were pathetically weak; a small, normal, woman can destroy one with a taser...
Superhumanly powerful opponents (like Colossus) could not defeat a Future Sentinel in melee combat; Black Widow wouldnt last 10 seconds against a Future Sentinel if she attacked one with a taser...
The Future Sentinels were far beyond the Ultron Clones... [/B]
When did they adapt to magnetism or mimic the abilities. That's also hyperbole.
Ultron hacks the sentinels so he has two armies.
So what ?? Colossus isn't impressive and kind of stupid. Speculation.
Ultron hacks them and adds them to his own. He isn't some dumb pathetic mutant who just throws punches. He hacks then and adds them to his own.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What does that have to do with being hacked ?When did they adapt to magnetism or mimic the abilities. That's also hyperbole.
Ultron hacks the sentinels so he has two armies.
So what ?? Colossus isn't impressive and kind of stupid. Speculation.
Ultron hacks them and adds them to his own. He isn't some dumb pathetic mutant who just throws punches. He hacks then and adds them to his own.
Whats your proof that Ultron can hack something as advanced as the Future Sentinels when he has never done so before?
The fact of the matter is that Ultron is 0-1 when attempting to hack techo-organic beings; thats 100% provable and 100% true...read em and weep.
Colossus is far beyond Black Widow physically and her not being able to last against a Future Sentinel if she's using a taser is 100% fact based on their showings on screen...
The Future Sentinels were built immune to magnetism so there was no need to adapt to it as they were effectively already adapted to it you dummy...
So yeah, Ultron cant hack them based on the facts...
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I can prove that Ultron has never successfully hacked a techno-organic being; which the Future Sentinels just happen to be...🙂
I can also prove that Ultron has never hacked anything as advanced as the Future Sentinels...
💃
There is enough here to throw alot of doubt on wether Ultron could do it or not...
😉
I can also prove that no sentinel has countered a hacking attempt by an AI as advanced as Ultron.
In fact, the future sentinels have zero proof that they have any security protocols in place to counter a hacker.
And then there's proof that the sentinels did not exactly display high levels of intelligence.
Now personally I'm on the fence on whether Ultron can hack them or not, but your arguments don't really hold much weight since they can be easilt nullified with the counter arguments i just provided.
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Furthermore, you can't just use "because they're techno-organic" as a reason why they can't be hacked. Vision resisting a hacking attempt wasn't due to him being techno organic but because his AI was smart enough to counter-hack Ultron. There's no proof that it had anything to do with him being techno-organic.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderYou made a claim it is advanced and therefore can repel it so prove it. You made the claims. Ultron can hack prove the sentinel can resist. You theorizing isn't proving your case. Useless conjecture it's how you debate.
Whats your proof that Ultron can hack something as advanced as the Future Sentinels when he has never done so before?The fact of the matter is that Ultron is 0-1 when attempting to hack techo-organic beings; thats 100% provable and 100% true...read em and weep.
Colossus is far beyond Black Widow physically and her not being able to last against a Future Sentinel if she's using a taser is 100% fact based on their showings on screen...
The Future Sentinels were built immune to magnetism so there was no need to adapt to it as they were effectively already adapted to it you dummy...
So yeah, Ultron cant hack them based on the facts...
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That isn't the point. Black widow and Hawkeye aren't a legitimate threat to Ultron. That is clear to anyone without a childlike retardation such as yourself. Just because they can kill some doesn't mean they are a problem to Ultron. It took the combined might of the avengers, vision, and an infinity stone to defeat him.
You haven't used one facts just useless conjecture. I doubt you even know what the word conjecture means are you're a retard who can't even use a period.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I can also prove that no sentinel has countered a hacking attempt by an AI as advanced as Ultron.In fact, the future sentinels have zero proof that they have any security protocols in place to counter a hacker.
And then there's proof that the sentinels did not exactly display high levels of intelligence.
Now personally I'm on the fence on whether Ultron can hack them or not, but your arguments don't really hold much weight since they can be easilt nullified with the counter arguments i just provided.
Silent made the initial assertion that Ultron could hack them; the burden is on him to back up his claim...
And has to back up that burden with the facts in place that Ultron has never hacked anything as advanced as a Future Sentinel and has a 0-1 record when attampting to hack techo-organic beings...
The above is provable fact; not speculation...
So yeah, my argument holds alot of weight because its backed up by what we saw on screen...