Terminator: Dark Fate

Started by Silent Master36 pages

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes im still waiting for clarification on this. Wheres the Woke Agenda in this film.

Like seriously I want to understand, because it seems to be going over my head.

If you really want that answer, You might try asking someone that claims there is one.

John Connor will always survive

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What doesnt make sense?

Originally posted by SquallX

The timeline makes no sense.

JD was averted, Skynet was destroyed. If that’s all true, then how come a T800 was sent back to kill John.

Legion is a branched off version of Skynet, how is that possible of Skynet was destroyed?

The bigger thing of importance is the T-800 that goes back in time to kill Sarah.

- Without Kyle Reese being sent back in time - the T-800 would kill Sarah.

Without John Connor - Kyle Reese never gets sent back in time!

Originally posted by Darth Thor
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/terminator_dark_fate

70% from critics (best since T2), and 85% from audiences (4,577 people verified that they saw the film). Seems like the audiences who watched this liked it.

It's a bullshit manipulated poll full of fake data - don't fall for it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor

It flopping has zero to do with a supposed woke message. And everything to do with spending too much money on an already tired franchise. A reboot could have been done on a small budget.

Movies with lots of digital effects already have big budgets, remember? Your words.

Dark Fate flopping had everything to do with the woke messages in the movie that eroded the story's credibility and resulted in the killing off of beloved important characters to the Saga.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Have you seen the film? SPOILER WARNINGS*

The T-800 was sent back from the previous timeline before it was erased.

Legion is not Skynet. Skynet was erased from existence at the end of T2?

The only futures that could have taken place were the alternate ending for T2 where John Connor grows up to become a Senator.

Or the future war where John Connor sends Kyle Reese back in time.

There never was a Legion - and there never could be.

Originally posted by Zenwolf

Well if John is dead as a kid, how are there the events of T1 and T2? How can there be time travel to begin if Skynet didn’t invent it as a last ditch effort to win? How is Sarah the way she is despite no events of the previous movies?

I mean the only way this makes any kind of sense is the past is always the same and then branches out like a fork in the road to different timelines. But I guess we won’t get any official explanation and just gotta roll with it.

No - there is no multiverse - the Terminator universe exists in a TIME-LOOP.

Skynet always sent a T-800 back to 1984 to kill Sarah.

Without Kyle Reese going back in time to protect Sarah - the T-800 would kill her.

Without John Connor existing - Kyle Reese never goes back in time.

John Connor will always survive - and Judgement Day cannot be stopped.

They didn't really think this through did they...

Originally posted by steverules_2
They didn't really think this through did they...

Liberal-Hollywood wanted to kill off the future of the Patriarchy (John Connor) brutally, and turn the Arnold T-800 into a cuck and kill him off too.

They wanted a reboot disguised as a sequel, so they could have their own feminist Terminator trilogy where Grace replaces Arnold and the Mexican girl replaces John Connor.

They knew the story literally didn't make sense, and they didn't care.

It's all about their agenda.

Or...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/terminator-movie-timeline-explained-1251753

It's just a reboot that ignores some bad movies and continues from T2.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/terminator-dark-fate-puts-franchise-ice-faces-120m-loss-1251926

'"Terminator: Dark Fate" Puts Franchise on Ice, Faces $120M-Plus Loss

Originally posted by CaveDude33211
No - there is no multiverse - the Terminator universe exists in a TIME-LOOP.

Skynet always sent a T-800 back to 1984 to kill Sarah.

Without Kyle Reese going back in time to protect Sarah - the T-800 would kill her.

Without John Connor existing - Kyle Reese never goes back in time.

John Connor will always survive - and Judgement Day cannot be stopped.

Thats not how T2 ended though.

Skynet was erased as was the original Judgement Day. Perhaps Any Judgement Day.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thats not how T2 ended though.

Skynet was erased as was the original Judgement Day. Perhaps Any Judgement Day.

Yup.

Originally posted by Surtur
That's a film that needs a remake right there. Was Michael Ironside the bad brother?

Originally posted by Surtur
"No Dany, you don't give birth to some MAN who saves the future YOU are the future!"

Originally posted by Silent Master
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/terminator-dark-fate-puts-franchise-ice-faces-120m-loss-1251926

'"Terminator: Dark Fate" Puts Franchise on Ice, Faces $120M-Plus Loss

Whoops it seems she isn't the future after all.

YouTube video

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you really want that answer, You might try asking someone that claims there is one.

Cool I have and I will. But from you then what was this about:

Originally posted by Silent Master
Just to be clear the arguments are now. 1) what woke agenda? and 2) the anti-woke agenda has gone too far.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
That's a film that needs a remake right there. Was Michael Ironside the bad brother?

Yeah he was the evil one.

Should be obvious, I've seen requests for proof of a woke agenda in the movie and statements about the anti-woke movement going to far.

Originally posted by Surtur
Whoops it seems she isn't the future after all.

YouTube video

Hollywood has forgotten how to build action heroes.

I mean, Sigorney Weaver had a certain look to her, and she could act. Even as recently as Tomb Raider, they casted a Lara Croft who looked like she could adventure.

For some reason Hollywood is casting Buffy the Vampire Slayer types, when that sort of thing only works in Buffy type TV shows. Absolutely no one will take her seriously in any sort of Hollywood blockbuster movie that aims to he more then tongue in cheek parody.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah he was the evil one.
Brilliant film, the sequels actually aren't bad either. Even Scanner Cop.

Yeah the sequel is okay, the first one is the best. "Fury" is another good movie.