Black Adam

Started by DeadpoolXXX19 pages

yeah dwayne "rock'd" way hard in this. like we get it, you're badass..now calm down my guy.

doctor fate was a disappointment, which sucks because i was looking forward to him the most. like rob said very much underutilized. he looked fantastic and was clearly powerful as f*ck, but it was like the director just didn't really know how to use him.

the rest of the supporting characters were forgettable. i guess hawkman was okay maybe?

the villain was just flatout bad, and just had some dude's voice slowed down lol.

as a whole i'd probably give 6/10. it wasn't the worst piece of shit in the dceu, but it was far from the best.

Originally posted by Robtard

Hawkman just wasn't very interesting.

100% accurate portrayal of the character, then.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
100% accurate portrayal of the character, then.
The only interesting Hawkman story is Hawkworld. Which is an 8/10 series.

Will peep this weekend, going in with low expectations and "check your brain at the door" mentality... Popcorn & drink-fun, hopefully.

sounds like this film is underperforming

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
yeah dwayne "rock'd" way hard in this. like we get it, you're badass..now calm down my guy.

doctor fate was a disappointment, which sucks because i was looking forward to him the most. like rob said very much underutilized. he looked fantastic and was clearly powerful as f*ck, but it was like the director just didn't really know how to use him.

the rest of the supporting characters were forgettable. i guess hawkman was okay maybe?

the villain was just flatout bad, and just had some dude's voice slowed down lol.

as a whole i'd probably give 6/10. it wasn't the worst piece of shit in the dceu, but it was far from the best.

I dont get all these comments about Fate being underused. If he'd been more central to the story the movie would have had to have been called Dr Fate not Black Adam. He was literally the second most used character in the film and the second most character developed (Amon got the most).

Not to mention he was damn impressive for a supporting character.

He had some hella impressive feats.

Physically he could contend with the likes of BA and the big bad. Yes he needed 5 duplicates to physically hold Teth and about a dozen to hold the end villain but that's pretty damn good for just a mage.

His shields stood up to more damage than those of many live action mystics. His precog was better and easier than that of Dr Strange.

His combat speed matched BA who in the opening scene had a flash time like feat from the CW series or JL Supes/Flash fight.

His magical constructs were pretty much the only damn thing troubling BA (sure HM's Nth metal wrapon strikes would make BA reel etc but not once.did he look in pain or even discomfort from them like he did from Fate)

His precog was simple and easy with no effort or time required he just entered a fight knowing several possibilities in advance

Adding to all this he could fight the big bad while shielding his team mates from outside the fight (with shields that those Nth metal weapons weren't having any effect on even though they'd absorbed BAs lightning and shot it back at him), while TP helping BA continents away.

Originally posted by Robtard
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The serious lack of backstory and character development for most of the mains hurt this. eg If you're not a DC comic reader, you just see Hawkman as some rich Black guy who has an indestructible ship and he can do some stuff. Dr. Fate, some kind of wizard, maybe from space, with a nice looking helmet who has been around the block a few times.

The kid was annoying as shit, he tried his best to mimic Freddy Freeman from Shazam, but that kid had some wit. His mom was hot though.

Atom Smasher was supposed to be the bumbling comic relief, but it just fell flat.

Cyclone was a generic nerdy-but-hot-girl. Her powers came off as just bad, visually speaking. Spins and spins and spins and some more spins.

Hawkman just wasn't very interesting.

Dr. Fate looked good, but he was criminally underused. He's supposed to be a big cannon, but didn't do all that much.

Final villain was atrociously bad. Looked stupid, sounded worse.

/endrant

You can't seriously tell me you went into this expecting a back story on 5 characters in only a 2 hour ACTION movie.if we'd had back story it would have had to have either been 3 1/2 hours long or had f all action. It was a Black Adam movie he was the only character I expected back story on and we got it. As for character development of BA he's an angry guy after vengeance his version of Justice. His character in the comicsnis literally that one dimensional.

The kid was great, he was the inspiration for BA to have had some redemption. He was the substitute son BA lost that he was trying to be worthy of.

Where the hell did you get the idea Smasher was supposed to be comic relief? He just seemed to me to be the new kid on the block who didn't have it all worked out yet and wasnt as effective as he should be. That why he ran the wrong way to the battle, accidentally hurt his team mates etc.

What exactly do you thing a "cyclone" does??? It's spinning air for God sake.

This was pretty much Hawkman straight out of the Johns Goyet runs of JSA he is just a warrior who seeks out the fight. Hits first asks questions later. Never mind we pretty much hot the 6 page BA HM fight from Black Reign except HM faired even better on film than on the comic page.

Lol, this comment made laugh. Dr Fate got more used in this movie than he did in the last 3 runs of Justice Society comics if you exclude 4 issues. The issue where Jay gets him after villains take down the whole team (actually remembering he did sweet f all in that issue so you can include it). The issues where he faced Mordru in the 90s run and the one issue he brought Shazams magic lightning from the past vs BA. If you combine those issues without the rest.of those runs he still did morning this film than in those. So in a 2 hour movie Fate had as much action as he's had in the last 151 JSA issues he's appeared in, but was criminally underused.

Yes the big bad wasn't great looking but exactly how would you do a guy powered by six hell lords?? And seriously it was a side note of the movie, barely 15 mins if that to give an antagonist that required the star to save everyone else from. To hive BA his big moment

I started watching this. It was lame so I stopped

Originally posted by CoolBlackKnight
Will peep this weekend, going in with low expectations and "check your brain at the door" mentality... Popcorn & drink-fun, hopefully.

This is how I felt. It was a popcorn and drink fun, nothing great but solid movie. People started to shout at the end credit scene.

I liked the fact it wasn't one liner, after one liner. Not every superhero film has to be a constant comedy. This was heavier on the action too. The internal plot inconsistencies were nowhere near as bad as spiderman or Dr Strange. The plot whilst ridiculous was more like a comic book too.

It was entertaining. I can see where the budget went. Was heavy in the action. Even his flying around was pretty cool.

I liked it. The Rock was just the Rock, but thats fine.

7/10

Originally posted by tkitna
I liked it. The Rock was just the Rock, but thats fine.

7/10

Adam is a very complex character.

Rock is just a steroid junkie with a micropenis. He's the last person that should play the character.

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Warner should have called Whirly and see if he was available.

Originally posted by beatboks
I dont get all these comments about Fate being underused. If he'd been more central to the story the movie would have had to have been called Dr Fate not Black Adam.

^^^Truth…

Originally posted by beatboks
You can't seriously tell me you went into this expecting a back story on 5 characters in only a 2 hour ACTION movie.if we'd had back story it would have had to have either been 3 1/2 hours long or had f all action. It was a Black Adam movie he was the only character I expected back story on and we got it. As for character development of BA he's an angry guy after vengeance his version of Justice. His character in the comicsnis literally that one dimensional.

…truth…
Originally posted by beatboks
Yes the big bad wasn't great looking but exactly how would you do a guy powered by six hell lords?? And seriously it was a side note of the movie, barely 15 mins if that to give an antagonist that required the star to save everyone else from. To hive BA his big moment

…and truth.

It was good action movie/comic movie.
I wasn’t expecting Oscar bait. 🙄

Audience score at 90% on RT..Critics at 41%. A- on cinemascore. Reading box office reports today and all seem to be positive on the numbers.

I'd love to see DC challenge Marvel as I like the characters much better and I'm tired of Marvel turning everything into a Will Ferrell type comedy movie.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
A- on cinemascore

Not quite. It's a B+

Got done watching this and it was definitely one of the best pure superhero blockbusters since The Avengers. All of the characters were great (as were the actors who played them), the powers were awesome, the villain was threatening, great discussions about superhero ethics, the score and cinematography were all on point, and the jokes were funny but didn't ruin the tension. All in all a solid 8/10 movie. My only gripe was

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that it seemed foolish that they didn't free Adam before fighting Sabbac. How the phuck did they think they would win that battle without him? It unfortunately reduced the impact of Dr. Fate's sacrifice to a slight extent
. Besides that, a practically perfect superhero film. And of course, the
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post credit scene with the return of Cavill Superman (and the cameo appearance of the Peacemaker sidekick lady (Although I thought that showed sucked major ass)) had me hyped AF. I do legit wonder if they can do a DCEU Multiverse with a team-up of Affleck AND Pattinson Batman and Leto AND Phoenix's Joker, since they seem to be progressing forward with the DCEU. Can't wait to see what's planned!

just watched black adam, AND you know what i liked it. the rock was simply the rock. that punk kid really wasn't needed.

good seeing

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Cavil, but I knew a while back he was gonna be in this.

i'd give this 8/10

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Audience score at 90% on RT..Critics at 41%. A- on cinemascore. Reading box office reports today and all seem to be positive on the numbers.

I'd love to see DC challenge Marvel as I like the characters much better and I'm tired of Marvel turning everything into a Will Ferrell type comedy movie.

Originally posted by Robtard
Probbaly going to be one of those movies where the critics give low 40s, while the audience puts it over 75. Such is the power of D. Johnson.

90% is surprising though, I was thinking 85 tops

I thought the movie had its flaws, but in general I enjoyed it. I'd watch a sequel, sure.

Originally posted by beatboks
I dont get all these comments about Fate being underused. If he'd been more central to the story the movie would have had to have been called Dr Fate not Black Adam. He was literally the second most used character in the film and the second most character developed (Amon got the most).

Not to mention he was damn impressive for a supporting character.

He had some hella impressive feats.

Physically he could contend with the likes of BA and the big bad. Yes he needed 5 duplicates to physically hold Teth and about a dozen to hold the end villain but that's pretty damn good for just a mage.

His shields stood up to more damage than those of many live action mystics. His precog was better and easier than that of Dr Strange.

His combat speed matched BA who in the opening scene had a flash time like feat from the CW series or JL Supes/Flash fight.

His magical constructs were pretty much the only damn thing troubling BA (sure HM's Nth metal wrapon strikes would make BA reel etc but not once.did he look in pain or even discomfort from them like he did from Fate)

His precog was simple and easy with no effort or time required he just entered a fight knowing several possibilities in advance

Adding to all this he could fight the big bad while shielding his team mates from outside the fight (with shields that those Nth metal weapons weren't having any effect on even though they'd absorbed BAs lightning and shot it back at him), while TP helping BA continents away.

You can't seriously tell me you went into this expecting a back story on 5 characters in only a 2 hour ACTION movie.if we'd had back story it would have had to have either been 3 1/2 hours long or had f all action. It was a Black Adam movie he was the only character I expected back story on and we got it. As for character development of BA he's an angry guy after vengeance his version of Justice. His character in the comicsnis literally that one dimensional.

The kid was great, he was the inspiration for BA to have had some redemption. He was the substitute son BA lost that he was trying to be worthy of.

Where the hell did you get the idea Smasher was supposed to be comic relief? He just seemed to me to be the new kid on the block who didn't have it all worked out yet and wasnt as effective as he should be. That why he ran the wrong way to the battle, accidentally hurt his team mates etc.

What exactly do you thing a "cyclone" does??? It's spinning air for God sake.

This was pretty much Hawkman straight out of the Johns Goyet runs of JSA he is just a warrior who seeks out the fight. Hits first asks questions later. Never mind we pretty much hot the 6 page BA HM fight from Black Reign except HM faired even better on film than on the comic page.

Lol, this comment made laugh. Dr Fate got more used in this movie than he did in the last 3 runs of Justice Society comics if you exclude 4 issues. The issue where Jay gets him after villains take down the whole team (actually remembering he did sweet f all in that issue so you can include it). The issues where he faced Mordru in the 90s run and the one issue he brought Shazams magic lightning from the past vs BA. If you combine those issues without the rest.of those runs he still did morning this film than in those. So in a 2 hour movie Fate had as much action as he's had in the last 151 JSA issues he's appeared in, but was criminally underused.

Yes the big bad wasn't great looking but exactly how would you do a guy powered by six hell lords?? And seriously it was a side note of the movie, barely 15 mins if that to give an antagonist that required the star to save everyone else from. To hive BA his big moment

That’s the writer’s problem with poor planning, there were minutes here/there that could have been removed to make time for more character development, that wouldn’t have ruined the flow of the overall story. BA had some character development and backstory, the others had almost none. Even an extra few minutes fleshing out the others would have helped the story.

Disagree. The kid was very much written to be another Freddy Freeman in mannerisms and it came off as lazy. Give him his own persona, I say.

The movie is where I got that, where AS was goofing up and then being admonished by Hawkman. *smashes something on accident” “Oops, my bad, hope that wasn’t expensive.” etc. it all fell flat though.

Spinning didn’t look good to me with the colors and such, this is a minor gripe of mine though. Her being a generic nerdy-but-hot girl with almost no backstory was the much bigger issue. Maybe if they cut 5-6 mins of her spinning around while looking cute and used that time to flesh her character out more, that would have helped.

This Hawkman being directly out of one of the comic series is overall irrelevant if it doesn’t work very well on screen. He came off as not very interesting. Maybe they could have picked a more interesting version from another comic series, or cut 5-6 mins of him being angry and making angry faces to flesh his character out more.

Who cares? I’m not reading a comic when I went to see BA, I was watching a movie and Dr. Fate was grossly underused, when he should have been the one giving BA pause. Except he was just kinda there, even in his big fight it was a whole lot of meh.

Disagree, the big bad was atrocious. Saying “not great” is a massive understatement.

I’m glad you asked though 👆 Tim Curry did the “hell lord” portrayal 10,001 times better back in 1985. They could have used that basic concept, while adding to it with modern CGI to make one back as hell lord. Tim Curry as “Darkness”, even his voice was massively better than what we got in BA:

edit: Don't get me wrong, I'm glad people who paid for this enjoyed it, but I felt gypped.