i agree--we were done quite a while ago i'm afraid.... soon as you said he could tank 1000 shots, it was pretty much over. at the end of wwh he went wbh for the first time. that was a distinctly different level of hulk. the energy from the eyes is the same energy we see in your 100% gammified hulk. we did NOT see that (the energy eyes, energy radiation) in the wwh arc. you continuously want to move the goalpost here. the wwh that was smacking hercules would have his lights turned out in about 1 second if hercules hit him 1000 times. not sure how this was ever debated in the first place. could 1000 hits from hercules ko hotm hulk? i'd say sure as sh!t it would, despite the fact that the other 'herald level guys like bi-beast were supposedly 1000x more powerful1!!'. zeus literally crushed that same hulk without effort. odin could barely put down thanos after prolonged battle. abc logic, but this seems about the time and place for it. you think zeus would have had thanos puking his guts out like that after a couple hits, given what odin did to him?? so now you're going to tell me thanos is what....FAR above that version of hulk, who according to you dwarfs guys like herc and thor??
the whole thing is crazy i'm afraid, and has never been born out against anyone of merit except sentry, and all you have there is opinion for the amount of power it required to go h2h with him. his gamma energy empowered a bunch of hulks? so? one bomb created hulk. one bomb empowered all those hulks. wbh was a beast. this isn't wbh. it's the hulk who couldn't ko a limp hercules, who didn't want to fight at all.
even your mindless scans--the heroes held back almost the entire fight. it was one of the main plot points and i proved it the last time the issue came up. and herc was certainly never in any danger at any point in that meeting. in fact, any time he faced that hulk 1 on 1 he did absolutely fine--he seemed to relish it when they first met.
i'm afraid none of the scans you showed were from the arc in discussion here, and none of them did anything to prove to me that he's taking a 1000 shots (in the first second, who knows HOW many 1000s in an actual fight!) from herc when zeus crippled him with only what, half a dozen? and that was an even STRONGER hulk than the wwh version.
sorry bro, you're right. debate is long ended. /shrug
😂 hulk 635. because there is hardly ANY difference between the way he was depicted in the hotm--especially at the end--and the way he was shown in the wwh arc. hopefully you're kidding. this entire thread--as was reiterated by the thread starter--was intended to portray herc vs wwh AS SHOWN IN THAT ARC. this thread wasn't HERC VS GREEN SCAR. you don't seem to get that for some reason. and it expressly did NOT include hulk's depictions in the hotm arc. again, stated by the thread starter. and since that was never what i was debating in the first place, no, i won't be agreeing to that i'm afraid. one scan of hulk shattering a planet as collateral damage would likely suffice for you in that case....
if you wanna stick to the intended spirit of this thread--wwh, as shown in that arc--i'm all in.
All I need from you is to tell me the difference. I've already posted here how what this false equivalence is to deaf ears but that doesn't mean I will be less than adamant concerning logic and frankly, the truth. Why am I to be confined to a short arc when the story didn't even end there and the name of the character the forum uses is completely wrong?
The fact that I'm accommodating you with the Quicksilver nonsense is pretty nice to begin with since it never was part of that arc as well
Originally posted by psycho gundam
All I need from you is to tell me the difference. I've already posted here how what this false equivalence is to deaf ears but that doesn't mean I will be less than adamant concerning logic and frankly, the truth. Why am I to be confined to a short arc when the story didn't even end there and the name of the character the forum uses is completely wrong?The fact that I'm accommodating you with the Quicksilver nonsense is pretty nice to begin with since it never was part of that arc as well
wth? really? i'm not debating the difference between hulks. lol
leo: i'll gladly bz anyone who wants to have a herc w/qs speed vs wwh
pg: i'll bz!
leo: awesome, let's start tomorrow.
pg: ok, but i'm using all green scar showings including the book where he goes full wbh!
leo: 😐
i trust you see how that plays out? and you're 'accommodating me? lol THE THREAD IS HERC W\QS SPEED VS WWH AS SEEN IN THAT ARC.
anyway, this is ludicrous. if you want to debate the thread we're in, coolio. all in. if not, concession accepted. 👆
Originally posted by leonidasTechnically this is what I initially started with
wth? really? i'm not debating the difference between hulks. lolleo: i'll gladly bz anyone who wants to have a herc w/qs speed vs wwh
pg: i'll bz!
leo: awesome, let's start tomorrow.
pg: ok, but i'm using all green scar showings including the book where he goes full wbh!
leo: 😐i trust you see how that plays out? and you're 'accommodating me? lol THE THREAD IS HERC W\QS SPEED VS WWH AS SEEN IN THAT ARC.
anyway, this is ludicrous. if you want to debate the thread we're in, coolio. all in. if not, concession accepted. 👆
Originally posted by psycho gundamIf you want Quicksilver added to that I'm fine (yet to be defined era) but Hercules gets far too much credit and that battlezone has been long overdue
Leo, I'm open to a battlezone vs Hercules any time.
Full transparency: if I were to talk about what WB level Hulk from WWH #5 is capable of, wouldn't I logically show it from canon issues where it appears? It's the same as green scar. The thread starter in this thread has no bearing on what I'm starting the battlezone with.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Technically this is what I initially started withIf you want Quicksilver added to that I'm fine (yet to be defined era) but Hercules gets far too much credit and that battlezone has been long overdue
Full transparency: if I were to talk about what WB level Hulk from WWH #5 is capable of, wouldn't I logically show it from canon issues where it appears? It's the same as green scar. The thread starter in this thread has no bearing on what I'm starting the battlezone with.
but the thread starter, and his topic, has EVERY bearing on the bz i proposed. i mean, seriously? this IS the topic that is being debated here. herc gets too much credit? wth? from whom exactly? herc would have given a classic battle to to hulk in that wwh arc had he really chosen to fight and there are dozens of feats to support that--including banner's own words. BUT HE WOULD LOSE. he'd almost always lose to hulk after a very long battle. same as he'd beat thor with no hammer. hulk's hf is too much, and his durability feats are much better. not sure who's said otherwise.
again, for the umpteenth time--this is a very specific thread. the reason i said i'd bz this topic is because i figured it would be ABOUT this thread. hulk, in the wwh arc vs hercules w/qs speed--plain old qs, no isotope e enhancement.
i've been crystal clear throughout this entire thread while you keep wanting to put your own definition on what i'm arguing, and what the thread starter has dictated. that's not on me, nor is it on me to accommodate. again, if you wanna debate the thread topic, i'm in. can't be more clear than that.
Originally posted by leonidasThat's the foundation the entire premise of this thread hinges on and I would go into lengths to illustrate that it's completely false.
herc would have given a classic battle to to hulk in that wwh arc had he really chosen to fight and there are dozens of feats to support that--including banner's own words.
I'm not arguing the same topic twice under the same conditions. That would be a waste of time especially how this thread turned out
