Originally posted by FrothByte
Sure dude, whatever. You can't stick to the topic, you can't address specific questions to you, you can't understand basic analogies, you don't understand the difference between running speed and reflex speed, you misrepresent everything I say, you confuse different threads, you've started stalking me on other threads, heck you can't even do basic math to get my age right (2017 - 1984 = 33, not 32).... I really should have stopped talking to you long ago since it seems you're only trolling. Oh well, no better time to start than the present.
Notice how you accused him of needing to "man/woman-up" and so he accuses you of not having any guts?
He basically went "no you".
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
1. You are either dumb or just trolling. He literally just flew forward while punching. Sigh.2. That's just speculation from your part that he did all of that. Do you even have proof the warlord survived?
Diana disarming a guy before he can even realize what's happening is clearer and outright better tbh.
3. He didn't "run' lmao
4. Then why discuss it at all? Lol
1. Yes, he flew forward with his feet touching the ground. rolleyes1
2. "I didn't kill those men, if that's what they think-If that's what you're saying." - Clark Kent to Lois Lane
Also, the general would go "pop" and be a red stain if Kal rammed him into a wall at those speeds. Given Kal's own account of the incident and the lack of evidence to contradict him, General Amajagh lived.
3. We have alread established that you don't recognize running when you see it. Moving on.
4. Because some people like to poo-poo those superior reaction feats, so I picked one they would accept.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
1. You are either dumb or just trolling. He literally just flew forward while punching. Sigh.2. That's just speculation from your part that he did all of that. Do you even have proof the warlord survived?
Diana disarming a guy before he can even realize what's happening is clearer and outright better tbh.
3. He didn't "run' lmao
4. Then why discuss it at all? Lol
How does one fly while running?
Originally posted by FrothByte
1. So basically he runs forward and punches someone. Yeah... that's not complex at all. Even a toddler could do that. Granted, not as fast or as efficient as Superman but it still means it's not complex. Nothing like stringing together a combination of punches or avoiding a string of hits.2. You get hit at extreme speeds the tendency is for your arms to fly open. There literally is no proof that he actually stopped to remove the thug's arm around from Lois' neck. If that was true then Superman would be a cold blooded murderer, because if you had the control to remove his arm around her neck at super speed then why did you have to ram him into a wall? Such precise control like that implies that Superman could easily have just subdued him with an arm lock.
3. I never said any human could run at those speeds, much the same way a human cannot block bullets with their arm guards. But the act of running is a simpler, easier movement to perform then blocking a string of projectiles coming your way. Diana didn't just "raise her hand" she had to put it in the path of the bullet, again and again, and that means being able to perceive the bullet's trajectory and being able string together different movements at speeds faster than the bullets.
4. Like I said before, characters in Arrow catch arrows all the time, with the same ease Superman showed in that clip. Thing is, arrows fly faster than RPG's. Are we going to assume that characters in Arrow are speedsters now as well?
5. I never claimed that Diana blocked multiple [b]simultaneous
bullets. Though I'm pretty sure there's probably a scene or two of that in the no-man's land fight. But that wasn't my point I was raising. [/B]
1. He has to get up off the floor first. He strings all three seperate actions together in less that a second but you discount it because your "complex maneuver" term is equal parts vague and subjective. A toddler can barely walk, it's why they are called toddlers. Lets clarify: Was Diana
Spoiler:a complex action or not? Was Flash punching Girder at mach 1 simple?
blocking General Ludendorf's bullet in the watchtower
2. The general is alive.
3. Far more muscles and bones (not to mention the vestibular system) are involved in me running a 20 yard dash than in me blocking a thrown rock with my arm (I scaled the acts down to human proportions do that you can understand what I am saying).
"at speeds faster than the bullets." Except in the alley scene all of Diana's movements are quick but easily perceptible. Contrast with Kal-El who is a blur in most of the gifs I posted.
4. An arrow is quite a bit longer than a 40mm grenade, giving the catcher a larger margin for error. The arrow also has to be knotched and the bow drawn back before it is fired. A lot of movement and time to prepare oneself compared to squeezing a trigger.
As an aside: Are most of these arrow catching feats in season 5? I have missed pretty much the entire season and in the show I can only really remember Damien Dahrk stopping arrows in mid-flight with ease.
5. When you say she is blocking "multiple" bullets, that is what the text implies. What happens in the film is she blocks one bullet after another, as they are fired in sequence. The only time she intercepts multiple bullets at the same time is with her shield.
The basis of this whole persons argument is, because we can see Superman fight, he isn't moving at super speed, but since Diana "disappeared" one time, thats how she will fight all the time.
He says before that she wasn't at her full power, but we saw her at her full power in BvS which happened almost 90 years later from WW1. She never disappeared and fought doomsday the way she's being describing she will fight MoS.
Taking one feat and multiplying it as, that is how she is going to fight all the time, when her latest feats against doomsday prove the opposite, he still reacted and tagged her multiple times, regardless if she blocked them. The fact she had to block them, means he was fast enough to hit her.
While at the same time saying because kryptonians fight in speed bursts, that its somehow not sustainable, while at the same time assuming her disappearing feat is. Double Standard.
Apoc was able to react to the fastest speedster we have ever seen on screen. Speedsters continually get tagged by slower people. And Diana was tagged by Ares and his minion who have no bullet blocking feats and were substantially slower.
Superman can and will tag with her as easy as Doomsday or Ares, or his henchmen and when he does, its over. His speed feats are beyond anyone she's faced. She never took on 2-3 krptonians. She took on Ares, whom she was the plot device herself to defeat him.
Well there was all of this mayhem happening:
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And up until the Kryptonite spear came into play Wonder Woman was arguably doing better against Doomsday than Superman considering she was doing damage to it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Doomsday had trouble landing hits on wonder woman and he can fly at that speed?Can you show us where all that happened?
And does that passes the test of complex movements?
Superman tried to bull rush Doomsday and Doomsday caught him in mid air. DD isn't slow. Yet in the entire final fight in BvS, I only recall him landing 1 hit on WW whereas he repeatedly hit Superman. Granted, he fought Superman longer and did pick on him more. Still... you can't just ignore this.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
My point wasn't to discredit Superman but show an example of where Wonder Woman did well against Doomsday.Besides the Sun dip after flying Doomsday into space kind of negated the damage Batman did.
To be clear, I always maintained the stance that Superman would probably win more times against WW than the other way around. I'm just contesting the line of thought that Superman is faster than Diana, not when she has had better displayed combat speed feats.