Wonder Woman vs. Superman

Originally posted by Psychotron
Pressure points are absolutely not a thing in real fights. They're used in fake fighting like Kung-Fu, or Karate, or Krav Maga.

Also, I don't remember Wonder Woman ever using pressure points, so this argument is pointless.

Oh pressure points are real enough, as you would know if you've ever jammed the corner of a table just behind your elbow joint. Fact is some parts of your body are simply more susceptible to injury and pain than other parts.

The problem is that pressure points are very hard to do in a real fight because your opponent is moving. That doesn't mean they aren't doable, you just need someone with extreme skill and precision to be able to pull it off.

Originally posted by Silent Master
YouTube video

Scene at 1:27 demonstrates clear super speed. Better super speed than we've seen from Superman.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Scene at 1:27 demonstrates clear super speed. Better super speed than we've seen from Superman.

Not only THAT but she's in like a track meet position after Ares hits her and moves SIDEWAYS avoiding the falling Earth which appears to be no more than 6ft above her which is almost like the instantaneous speed of the flash.

I would think that would be harder than from an upright, running position like superman usually does.

Speed like that can clearly be used in close quarter combat because it's instantaneous.

Yep, covering a few dozen meters in a few seconds is definitely better than flying from the Arctic to Metropolis in a few seconds.

Feminism Woman wins 11/10.

Yes, Superman can fly really fast. good for him.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yep, covering a few dozen meters in a few seconds is definitely better than flying from the Arctic to Metropolis in a few seconds.

Feminism Woman wins 11/10.

Wonder Woman was moving like the FLASH for Christ Sake.

Instantaneously!

Post the scene of Superman.

We have no way of knowing how fast either were going.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yep, covering a few dozen meters in a few seconds is definitely better than flying from the Arctic to Metropolis in a few seconds.

Feminism Woman wins 11/10.

And yet Superman has never demonstrated such speed while in combat. If this is how you want to misuse feats then we might as well say that Kurse is faster than Superman due to him slapping away Mjolnir that has shown to be able to travel into space in a few seconds.

Or what about the scene where Wonder Woman was in the Bar and the guys were having that bar fight and one guy pulled out a gun and she was sitting at the table, GOT UP, SNATCHED the gun all in the blink of an eye?

Mind you, we see Wonder Woman SITTING down.

Instantaneous combat speed.

I can understand if some want to argue that Wonder Woman's superspeed isn't as fast as Superman. I disagree but I can understand the stance.

What I can't understand is how some people are completely denying that Wonder Woman has superspeed. IT. IS. RIGHT. THERE. The feat and video is posted RIGHT THERE!

Originally posted by FrothByte
I can understand if some want to argue that Wonder Woman's superspeed isn't as fast as Superman. I disagree but I can understand the stance.

What I can't understand is how some people are completely denying that Wonder Woman has superspeed. IT. IS. RIGHT. THERE. The feat and video is posted RIGHT THERE!

What gets me is that people keep confusing flight speed with combat speed. it's funny how they only ever argue this for DC charcaters. I have yet to see any of them claim comic Thor or any of Marvel character has FTL combat speed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
And yet Superman has never demonstrated such speed while in combat. If this is how you want to misuse feats then we might as well say that Kurse is faster than Superman due to him slapping away Mjolnir that has shown to be able to travel into space in a few seconds.

Superman fought Faora, a confirmed speedster by on-screen feats, AND Nam-Ek at the same time. Superman has been showed to hit the speed of sound with no effort, Superman has traversed the globe in minutes. Superman has caught a grenade launcher round fired at close distance casually. Superman has blitzed a warlord faster than he can pull the trigger on his human hostage (Lois), while leaving Lois unharmed.

I mean, what more do you people want? Superman doesn't need to move like Diana against normal humans because his durability isn't crap like hers is. He proved that he had no trouble hanging with a legit speedster, who had H2H training, when he beat down Faora.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Superman fought Faora, a confirmed speedster by on-screen feats, AND Nam-Ek at the same time. Superman has been showed to hit the speed of sound with no effort, Superman has traversed the globe in minutes. Superman has caught a grenade launcher round fired at close distance casually. Superman has blitzed a warlord faster than he can pull the trigger on his human hostage (Lois), while leaving Lois unharmed.

I mean, what more do you people want? Superman doesn't need to move like Diana against normal humans because his durability isn't crap like hers is. He proved that he had no trouble hanging with a legit speedster, who had H2H training, when he beat down Faora.

But Faora's speed and Combat training are<<<<<WW

Faora never seemed to move as fast as wonder woman in the film.

Wonder Woman's speed seems to be almost like teleportation.

It's instantaneous because it's magical lol

Couple that with join locks, wrestling, and extremely high level of martial prowess as well as reflexes. I don't see how it would be a stomp in Supes favor. 😮

I sincerely hope that post was a parody of h1.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I sincerely hope that post was a parody of h1.

No.

Then you're the parody, I guess.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Then you're the parody, I guess.

💃

I'll be that.

And DCEU wonder woman is still faster than DCEU Superman.

Not to mention she was fast enough to intercept Doomsday's Heat Vision in midair.

All those are instances of superspeed in COMBAT.

Even if superman flew from Antarctica of Metropolis in "seconds" that is still not going to be effective in COMBAT when someone can intercept bullets and move just as fast if not faster.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Superman fought Faora, a confirmed speedster by on-screen feats, AND Nam-Ek at the same time. Superman has been showed to hit the speed of sound with no effort, Superman has traversed the globe in minutes. Superman has caught a grenade launcher round fired at close distance casually. Superman has blitzed a warlord faster than he can pull the trigger on his human hostage (Lois), while leaving Lois unharmed.

I mean, what more do you people want? Superman doesn't need to move like Diana against normal humans because his durability isn't crap like hers is. He proved that he had no trouble hanging with a legit speedster, who had H2H training, when he beat down Faora.

Ok let's do this step by step:

1. Do you agree or disagree that WW has superspeed?

/watch?v=CVDRaZwurTg

You can see her kind of dodging bullets here, too.

I think Patti Jenkins went for a more "realistic" and less comic booky over the top displays of power by Diana.

It looks "real".

Originally posted by FrothByte
Scene at 1:27 demonstrates clear super speed. Better super speed than we've seen from Superman.

We could clearly see her move, and she literally just slid forward with her elbow extended, are you insane? 😂

Explain the mental gymnastics you need to claim that Wonder Woman running offscreen then running back onscreen and elbowing Ares is better super speed than Superman literally dashing around a city with his super speed and fighting Ares.

I'm glad that Superman can throw normal speed punches while flying really fast, it's really impressive.