Outlander vs. Darth Vader

Disney canon has no importance when comparing PT characters to Legends characters from other eras.

SoD Maul level was a conclusion I conservatively reached for SoR/KOTFE HoTlander to make the point that even if he is only SoD Maul level, Vader being above prime Outlander becomes a ridiculous notion. What the HoT did in Act III against a more powerful Vitiate than the one that brought down a large portion of the Dark Temple (under extremely disadvantageous circumstances) and the assessment we can make for his dueling abilities from his raw power+battlemaster accolade is more than enough to compare him to the likes of Dooku, and perhaps even Vader himself.

Don't forget that this guy becomes the supreme leader of the galaxy in his twenties. His coming was prophesied 300 years before his birth. It's no surprise that he outshines Vader. Even the gigantic gap between him and Valkorion has decreased significantly.

Based on all of this, Arcann is EASILY Vader level, and the Outlander is significantly above that level. Get over yourself and realize how much more powerful the Outlander has become since early-KOTFE.

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Arcann isn't even Galen level, let alone Vader. Outlander would get tooled by Dooku and impreganted by Vader.

Vader team stay taking l's, lmao.

Legends Vader's feats also outclass the outlander's as does his scaling from the likes of dooku, starkiller and Kenobi.

Reverse scaling still isn't a thing. You can't try and argue for the outlander based on the assertion that Maul's close to Vader(which itself is a laughable as fck assertion) unless you're willing to prove that the gap between Vader and maul is smaller than the one between maul and the outlander.

Just coz character A is only> charcter B does not change or affect how character A comapres to completely unrealted character C

That's....that's not what Sinious is saying.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Vader team stay taking l's, lmao.

Rich coming from the guy whose only comment here was to quote someone else.

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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
That's....that's not what Sinious is saying.

Originally posted by Sinious
SoD Maul level was a conclusion I conservatively reached for SoR/KOTFE HoTlander to make the point that even if he is only SoD Maul level, Vader being above prime Outlander becomes a ridiculous notion.

No.

What he's saying is this:

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[*]Chapter 8 KOTFE Outlander is at least SoD Maul level.
[*]Arcann is capable of ragdolling Chapter 8 KOTFE Outlander, who is at least SOD Maul level.
[*]Arcann is therefore Vader level.
[*]Outlander defeats Arcann in a close fight at the end of KOTFE, before receiving pretty immense improvement in KOTET.
[*]Conclusion: Peak KOTET Outlander > Vader.
[/list]

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
No.

What he's saying is this:

[list]
[*]Chapter 8 KOTFE Outlander is at least SoD Maul level.
[*]Arcann is capable of ragdolling Chapter 8 KOTFE Outlander, who is at least SOD Maul level.
[*]Arcann is therefore Vader level.
[*]Outlander defeats Arcann in a close fight at the end of KOTFE, before receiving pretty immense improvement in KOTET.
[*]Conclusion: Peak KOTET Outlander > Vader.
[/list]

If his argument for outlander's place compared to Vader hinges on where he thinks the outlander stands in comparison to Vader's inferior, he doesn't have an argument.

All of those are flawed.

Shitlander isn't Maul level.
Arcann didn't ragdoll the Shitlander and he was weakened anyway.
Arcann isn't Vader level.
Shitlander only beat Arcann because of 2 specific amps, which he doesn't retain post Valkorion's death.
The conclusion is retarded.

I'll let Sinious respond to you guys before I bother. 👆

I like how you approved of Syn's post saying Starkiller was exhausted when Vader ragdolled him yet wank the shit out of Arcann's force pull. I expect more from your ToR wanking Skillz.

Oh, I wasn't agreeing with the exhausted part. I like to keep people guessing. 🙂

I'm guessing whether you are serious or you got lobotomized like DC.

I'm not that prone to opening myself to getting lobotomized.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
All of those are flawed.

Shitlander isn't Maul level.
Arcann didn't ragdoll the Shitlander and he was weakened anyway.
Arcann isn't Vader level.
Shitlander only beat Arcann because of 2 specific amps, which he doesn't retain post Valkorion's death.
The conclusion is retarded.

The Outlander beats Arcann again in KOTET...and beats unchained Vaylin who is Arcann's decisive superior...

Originally posted by nfactor1995
The Outlander beats Arcann again in KOTET...and beats unchained Vaylin who is Arcann's decisive superior...

Presuming post sodomized, lightsided Arcann is in any way comparable to KotFE Arcann. Get back to me when you can prove that.

Originally posted by nfactor1995
The Outlander beats Arcann again in KOTET...and beats unchained Vaylin who is Arcann's decisive superior...