Azog the Defiler vs Oberyn

Started by quanchi11210 pages

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
If Thorin Oakenshield can evade him, Oberyn laughs at his face!
He is stronger than Oberyn. Oberyn couldn't outpace Gregor. Azog would bury him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is stronger than Oberyn. Oberyn couldn't outpace Gregor. Azog would bury him.

Oberyn did outpace the Mountain.

Oberyn is faster than Oakenshild.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Oberyn did outpace the Mountain.

Oberyn is faster than Oakenshild.

He was tossed so he never avoided all his atatcks. No evidence to that claim.

I disagree. Thorin would beat him. Convincingly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was tossed so he never avoided all his atatcks. No evidence to that claim.

I disagree. Thorin would beat him. Convincingly.

He was being cocky and mocking the Mountain, again all due to his personal vengetta against the Mountain.

I disagree too,

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
He was being cocky and mocking the Mountain, again all due to his personal vengetta against the Mountain.

I disagree too,

So he's overconfident which is a weakness.

I know.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So he's overconfident which is a weakness.

I know.

Not overconfident, overwhelmed and angry at the Mountain yes. Which makes him vulnerable. He wasnt thinking with a cold mind.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Not overconfident, overwhelmed and angry at the Mountain yes. Which makes him vulnerable. He wasnt thinking with a cold mind.
He was arrogant aka overconfident against the Mountain. That's been co signed by the GoT guys. This is who Oberyn is as a character. Lucky for Oberyn Azog will kill him quickly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was arrogant aka overconfident against the Mountain. That's been co signed by the GoT guys. This is who Oberyn is as a character. Lucky for Oberyn Azog will kill him quickly.

Confident and overconfident isnt the same.

No, if he was overconfident woth the Mountain, he wont be with the Azog.

Luckily for Azog, he wont have to delay his death as he did with the Mountain!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Confident and overconfident isnt the same.

No, if he was overconfident woth the Mountain, he wont be with the Azog.

Luckily for Azog, he wont have to delay his death as he did with the Mountain!

Arrogant and overconfident are.

It won't matter as Gregor still caught him and tossed him.

Oberyn can't take more than one attack while he can take his baby cuts seemingly all day.

Azog wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Arrogant and overconfident are.

It won't matter as Gregor still caught him and tossed him.

Oberyn can't take more than one attack while he can take his baby cuts seemingly all day.

Azog wins.

You are repating yourself.

Azog isnt Mountain.

Oberyn doesnt have to get overconfident on Azog. Azog loses.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You are repating yourself.

Azog isnt Mountain.

Oberyn doesnt have to get overconfident on Azog. Azog loses.

You said confident isn't the same thing as overconfident. I never said confidently I was correcting you.

Correct he's far better.

Nah, no proof. Gregor withstood his punishment and he's just a human being. Azog wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said confident isn't the same thing as overconfident. I never said confidently I was correcting you.

Correct he's far better.

Nah, no proof. Gregor withstood his punishment and he's just a human being. Azog wins.

I said he wont be as confident as he was with Gregor. I dont see what is wrong with that.

If Gregor withstood it, the Azog doesnt!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I said he wont be as confident as he was with Gregor. I dont see what is wrong with that.

If Gregor withstood it, the Azog doesnt!

I agree he won't fight in exactly the same manner pausing to elicit a confession but my point is he was still in close proximity and was tossed by Gregor.

Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree he won't fight in exactly the same manner pausing to elicit a confession but my point is he was still in close proximity and was tossed by Gregor.

Based on ?

He wont have to restrict himself from killing Azog the way he did with the Mountain. He wanted him to confess, he cant confess dead can he?

So in that aspect, this would be a much different fight.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
He wont have to restrict himself from killing Azog the way he did with the Mountain. He wanted him to confess, he cant confess dead can he?

So in that aspect, this would be a much different fight.

Even when he delivered a somewhat fatal blow Gregor still had the strength to kill Oberyn.

I see Azog disarming Oberyn with a blow or two then finishing him off.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Even when he delivered a somewhat fatal blow Gregor still had the strength to kill Oberyn.

I see Azog disarming Oberyn with a blow or two then finishing him off.

Gregor is a Juggernut, not the same can be said about Azog.

One spear through Azogs belly and he is almost done. Another and he is as good as dead!

Why you think Azog loses against Zombi Ser Gregor? Cause he wont resist one of his blows. Now gregor could take a LOT!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Gregor is a Juggernut, not the same can be said about Azog.

One spear through Azogs belly and he is almost done. Another and he is as good as dead!

Why you think Azog loses against Zombi Ser Gregor? Cause he wont resist one of his blows. Now gregor could take a LOT!

That statement carries no weight backed by no evidence.

Based off what does one spear to the gut critically wound him ?

We haven't seen him take anything let alone from a credible opponent. No proof to him being greater than he used to be but there is evidence he's slower than he is used to be.

Plus Azog does wear thick metal plate armor on his torso, belly stab from a spear might not be so easy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That statement carries no weight backed by no evidence.

Based off what does one spear to the gut critically wound him ?

We haven't seen him take anything let alone from a credible opponent. No proof to him being greater than he used to be but there is evidence he's slower than he is used to be.

Two spear stabs and one in the leg, manticore venom highly poisonous. If surviving that isnt being a Juggernaut then you have to search in the dictionary the meaning of the word.

Azog took one sword in the belky and he died! The weakling doesnt have a chance.

Lol! You have evidence that he can take a spear to the belky and be just as fine as Gregor was?

He endured Oberyns spear, thats better than anything Azog has received! Oberyn stomps. Azog doesnt have what it takes.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Plus Azog does wear thick metal plate armor on his torso, belly stab from a spear might not be so easy.

Why not? Thorins sword penetrated the armor. So i dont see why it would resist a spear.

Azog still has his legs, arms, head, and neck uncover. Oberyn would use his speed, venom, and long weapon to torture Azog.

Azog loses this one.