How many wins can Silver Surfer Get (DC)

Originally posted by darthgoober
Do you have scans of the instance? Again, I'm all but positive that's what happened. If you don't it's cool, I can ask Ambient for them I just figured I'd check with you first.

You can ask him. He wouldn't tell you this though.

Is that dodge you way of conceding the fact that the notion that Surfer never uses any form of weakness exploitation other than draining is false?

Are you continuing your years long dodging to show a single Surfer radiation based weakness exploitation?

Should I take your concession that you don't have any such scans?

From one plot to another lol

So you don't have any explanation and are just flinging your opinion as fact for years?

Figured.

I can show it's within his character to do so simply with his exchange with Glads.

Where he did not actually do that? And neither did he against Krosakis who had his powers.

Stop trying to set the terms to match your predetermined conclusion, has he exploited the weaknesses of others multiple times or not?

Has he used radiation based weakness or fire weakness? As you claimed is in character for him so he must have used it a lot.

Yes or not?

He ended up not having to because he was able to simply trap him on the planet.

That was just a bluff. Lunatik left the planet later without dying in Drax series.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And K-nite is outright mentioned in regards to "common knowledge" in the forum rules.

Kryptonite is. It's radiation make up isn't.

And if you try to simulate kryptonite and you are from a different universe, it doesn't works.

Originally posted by darthgoober
His resistance is inconsistent, yes. Surfer has things about him that are inconsistent as well, and for those things we try to establish an average. Forgetting powers that would end a fight quickly though... don't we have a specific term for that kind of thing?

@Phil, that's the exception not the rule.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Kryptonite is. It's radiation make up isn't.

And if you try to simulate kryptonite and you are from a different universe, it doesn't works.

Originally posted by krisblaze
@Phil, that's the exception not the rule.

No, that's the rule. Kryptonite is incredibly difficult to create and even if you create the radiation, it wouldn't affect an alternate universe kryptoninan.

What this really proves is that Hulk has cosmic awareness.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/136540/3044919-0373038393-Hulkv.jpg

He "knew" Gladiator has a radiation weakness.

And Surfer fans know deep down that without "imaginary" tactics like weakness exploitation Surfer doesn't stands a chance against Superman.

Isn't that right Goober?

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, that's the rule. Kryptonite is incredibly difficult to create and even if you create the radiation, it wouldn't affect an alternate universe kryptoninan.

Characters rarely have to know the makeup of the energy or whatever they create. That's usually been the stick for some of the Firestorms, never for the Surfer. And if it was then he could cosmic awareness it easily enough or get it like he did from an easy scan against Glads.

I usually ignore weakness exploitation, but you'd have to be borderline retarded to deny this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You can ask him. He wouldn't tell you this though.

Wait if you have those scans, do you have the ones in which she was depowered?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you continuing your years long dodging to show a single Surfer radiation based weakness exploitation?

Should I take your concession that you don't have any such scans?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you don't have any explanation and are just flinging your opinion as fact for years?

Figured.

The plot is an explanation lol

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where he did not actually do that? And neither did he against Krosakis who had his powers.

He didn't need to do that, but the threat shows it's within his character. Any proof that Krosakis(who also had the enigma force) shared Glad's weakness?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Has he used radiation based weakness or fire weakness? As you claimed is in character for him so he must have used it a lot.

Yes or not?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was just a bluff. Lunatik left the planet later without dying in Drax series.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What this really proves is that Hulk has cosmic awareness.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/136540/3044919-0373038393-Hulkv.jpg

He "knew" Gladiator has a radiation weakness.

And Surfer fans know deep down that without "imaginary" tactics like weakness exploitation Surfer doesn't stands a chance against Superman.

Isn't that right Goober?

Originally posted by krisblaze
Surfer wouldn't be creating Marvel-Kryptontite, he'd obviously create earth-1 kryptonite or whatever works on the Superman he's fighting.

He isn't that adapt. There are differences due to quantum nature of the different universes.

Characters rarely have to know the makeup of the energy or whatever they create. That's usually been the stick for some of the Firestorms, never for the Surfer. And if it was then he could cosmic awareness it easily enough or get it like he did from an easy scan against Glads.

Well he never scanned Gladiator to begin with.

And Surfer can't create something with no knowledge. That's consistent over the years as well.

I usually ignore weakness exploitation, but you'd have to be borderline retarded to deny this.

What's retarded is that he has never used it once in 60 years but somehow every time Surfer uses it against Superman.

Can he create Drax's weakness radiation to kill Thanos too?

By that logic Superman uses counter vibrations to erase him from the existence and unlike Surfer he has actually used it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
STROMIAN(or however it's spelled)

Strontian.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He isn't that adapt. There are differences due to quantum nature of the different universes.

Well he never scanned Gladiator to begin with.

And Surfer can't create something with no knowledge. That's consistent over the years as well.

What's retarded is that he has never used it once in 60 years but somehow every time Surfer uses it against Superman.

Can he create Drax's weakness radiation to kill Thanos too?

By that logic Superman uses counter vibrations to erase him from the existence and unlike Surfer he has actually used it.

Even if Surfer detects Supermans weakness/has common knowledge, the opposite is also true.

And what is easier to argue, creating the specific type of Kryptonite or whatever...or a punch to the face?

All the arguments that Surfer is tailor made to take out Superman kinda ignores that Surfer also has a 'weakness' that Superman is tailor made to exploit - being punched.

Not to mention,Superman has a villain who's literally his weakness - Metallo. And another who is a specialist in draining - Parasite.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Strontian.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait if you have those scans, do you have the ones in which she was depowered?

Yes, of course.

His encounter with Glads demonstrates it.

Where?

The plot is an explanation lol

Not for 50 years and no such feats from Surfer.

He didn't need to do that, but the threat shows it's within his character. Any proof that Krosakis(who also had the enigma force) shared Glad's weakness?

Him not using it shows he does not.

Any proof that he didn't? Anyone using strontians powers is susceptible to their weaknesses too.

Yeah, he's used a radiation based weakness against the hulk. And he's used various forms of energy manipulation against multiple people. And there's the thing against Glads.

He drained Hulk. Never used radiation weakness.

Never used it against Gladiator. Or Krosakis. Or Dr Spectrum. Or Namor. Or Tyrak. Or Attuma.

It wasn't a bluff. Lunatik escaped that planet before his run in with Drax. He actually escaped it in an issue that explained he was constantly evolving past things(kinda like Doomsday). He escaped, went to Earth, beat Hercules h2h, and then got beaten by either the Black Widow or Wasp I believe lol. But anyway it wasn't a bluff, he simply evolved past Surfer's effect apparently.

It was AFTER that scene.

Let me know where he evolved from what Surfer did as you're just making it up.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well that whole thing is bogus because his weakness is against STROMIAN(or however it's spelled) radiation not radiation in general. So the whole thing is simply poor writing.

Let it be clear, Surfer knowing Gladiator's weakness out of blue is cosmic awareness but Hulk knowing it is poor writing?

Hulk uses Gladiator's weakness 10/10? Right?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Even if Surfer detects Supermans weakness/has common knowledge, the opposite is also true.

And what is easier to argue, creating the specific type of Kryptonite or whatever...or a punch to the face?

All the arguments that Surfer is tailor made to take out Superman kinda ignores that Surfer also has a 'weakness' that Superman is tailor made to exploit - being punched.

Not to mention,Superman has a villain who's literally his weakness - Metallo. And another who is a specialist in draining - Parasite.

And once again a thread is consumed by Goober's imaginary tactics being argued ad nauseam.

How about actual in character feats Goober? Or are you just chicken that Surfer will never beat Superman that way?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Even if Surfer detects Supermans weakness/has common knowledge, the opposite is also true.

And what is easier to argue, creating the specific type of Kryptonite or whatever...or a punch to the face?

All the arguments that Surfer is tailor made to take out Superman kinda ignores that Surfer also has a 'weakness' that Superman is tailor made to exploit - being punched.

Not to mention,Superman has a villain who's literally his weakness - Metallo. And another who is a specialist in draining - Parasite.