How many wins can Silver Surfer Get (DC)

Originally posted by darthgoober
His resistance is inconsistent, yes. Surfer has things about him that are inconsistent as well, and for those things we try to establish an average. Forgetting powers that would end a fight quickly though... don't we have a specific term for that kind of thing?

The sooner you drop this 'Surfer can drain him', the sooner you'll be better. Because this will take an unfortunate turn of events when it will be insisted on that Superman can drain Surfer.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No he doesn't. He's got nothing to support the idea that he has the technical knowledge to build a spaceship from the ground up yet he's built spaceships with the power cosmic. Hell there was even an instance where he was without powers and a lady asked him if he could operate a computer and he flat out said that he could if he had his power cosmic but couldn't without it.

Please, show me Surfer scanning an opponent he has never met's DNA, understanding a weakness he doesn't even know to search for, then recreating that highly-complex element that he has never encountered...mid-fight. The same element that a matter-transmutator of the highest order [Firestorm] had to take time, while sitting on a table, while KNOWING OF ITS EXISTENCE, and KNOWING ITS MAKE-UP, in order to replicate it, in multiple attempts.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, of course.

Cool do you mind posting them?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not for 50 years and no such feats from Surfer.

You're asking about why he didn't turn Ben Grim human, the plot absolutely is an explanation.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Him not using it shows he does not.

Any proof that he didn't? Anyone using strontians powers is susceptible to their weaknesses too.

Now you're asking for proof a negative. It's your claim that Krosakis had Glad's weakness, where was this in anyway suggested? He didn't become stomian, h just absorbed Glad's energy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He drained Hulk. Never used radiation weakness.

Never used it against Gladiator. Or Krosakis. Or Dr Spectrum. Or Namor. Or Tyrak. Or Attuma.

He was blasting Hulk to revert him in one encounter, that's not draining.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was AFTER that scene.

Let me know where he evolved from what Surfer did as you're just making it up.

Are you familiar with the issue in question? I'm pretty sure it opens talking about Lunatik's evolutionary abilities.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And once again a thread is consumed by Goober's imaginary tactics being argued ad nauseam.

How about actual in character feats Goober? Or are you just chicken that Surfer will never beat Superman that way?

Diana would be his hardest fight imo due to skill, the bracelets, lasso and strength. The rest of the people, Surfer could get a clean sweep if he actually tried. He could wrap majority of these people in adamantium and they wouldn't be able to do a thing against it afterwards.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And once again a thread is consumed by Goober's imaginary tactics being argued ad nauseam.

How about actual in character feats Goober? Or are you just chicken that Surfer will never beat Superman that way?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Care to respond to me. Face me.

He fears you. You are his Freddy Krueger.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey were we supposed to have a BZ where weakness exploitation was off the table as a rule, you refused to participate when you realized you were going to lose lol.

Originally posted by Philosophía
You haven't provided anything on Surfer's side [and you never will, and we both know it] to be even a drop in the ocean as far as Superman's energy absorbtion/control is concerned against Surfer's draining his opponents. In fact, you keep spouting 'his resistance is inconsistent' without knowing shit about how it is, since you don't even read Superman comics.

The sooner you drop this 'Surfer can drain him', the sooner you'll be better. Because this will take an unfortunate turn of events when it will be insisted on that Superman can drain Surfer.

Please, show me Surfer scanning an opponent he has never met's DNA, understanding a weakness he doesn't even know to search for, then recreating that highly-complex element that he has never encountered...mid-fight. The same element that a matter-transmutator of the highest order [Firestorm] had to take time, while sitting on a table, while KNOWING OF ITS EXISTENCE, and KNOWING ITS MAKE-UP, in order to replicate it, in multiple attempts.

You're trying to make it sound like some long, drawn out complicated process for Surfer to use Supes's weaknesses against him and that's simply not the case.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'll gladly have a battlezone with you forum Superman vs forum Surfer. I'm not taking anything off the table - forum rules. This weekend?

Originally posted by darthgoober
You're a higher caliber of debater than Abhi by a fair share, I would actually feel the need to gather a good amount of scans and such if I were to debate you so it would take a while because my library is LONG gone lol. If you honestly want to have a Supes vs Surfer BZ in the future then we absolutely, but it'll actually take me a while to get ready for such a thing.

Oh well, maybe in the future.

Anyhow, maybe this topic should get back to other stuff, like Surfer vs Captain Marvel or whatnot. Or Wonder Woman. There's only so much it can be talked about creating kryptonite.

This is funny
Superman is one of 8 xters in the OP,yet this already derailed to a surfer vs superman thread

Just type your opinion and move on,jeez

Originally posted by Philosophía
I was asking because I took a few days off from work at the end of the week.

Oh well, maybe in the future.

Anyhow, maybe this topic should get back to other stuff, like Surfer vs Captain Marvel or whatnot. Or Wonder Woman. There's only so much it can be talked about creating kryptonite.

Originally posted by Genii96
This is funny
Superman is one of 8 xters in the OP,yet this already derailed to a surfer vs superman thread

Just type your opinion and move on,jeez

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah, yeah see my scan library is a distant memory due to an unfortunate incident involving a 44oz mountain dew and my external harddrive that I won't go into right now lol. But yes, we can totally have such a thing in the future if I can figure out how to reacquire all of my comics. Or we might be able to have one sooner if you want to have something like a "partners match" with me and someone like Ambient against you and someone else like abhi.

Suffice to say, it was maddening.

Maybe abhi wants to debate ambient, but I'm not into the tag-teams, lol.

@Philo,

Hulk drained energy that had enough power to kill every living being on the planet (super humans, Skyfathers, etc...) and Surfer was still able to drain him. Don't understand the point of those scans.

The point was that Hulk detected Gladiator's weakness,much like Surfer did.

The people pretending Surfer has a better than 3/10 shot at best are hilarious delusional Marvel partisans, exclusively. Superman can oneshot KO Surfer at will with any one of his conventional standard powers and tactics, as he has to people on a apr with and far above Surfer, but Surfer gonna do shit he does less than 30% of the time off the bat because... lol, delusion.

This one, Phil?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WannaCry_ransomware_attack

Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer's got the defensive abilities to make punching him more difficult and sufficient durability to shrug off a fair amount of damage. He's got a great ranged game, good speed, force fields, and intangibility to buy time even if we assume for some reason that he's going to take a minute or two to "will" blasts of kryptonite radiation. Or red sun energy.

Because Superman is FAR faster tactically, can destroy any defenses Surfer can erect with ease, and can disrupt intangible beings.

issue, page number and panel where Surfer ever created Kryptonite?

I'll wait.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
This one, Phil?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WannaCry_ransomware_attack

It was something very similar, either way.