Originally posted by darthgoober
1. 8-9
2. 6-7
3. 6-7
4. 6-7(unless we're talking about Lobo with the blood cloning)
5. 9-10
6. 8-9
7. 8
8. 8-9
How do you think Surfer will beat Superman?
How do you think Surfer will beat Orion?
How do you think Surfer will beat WW?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer's got the defensive abilities to make punching him more difficult and sufficient durability to shrug off a fair amount of damage. He's got a great ranged game, good speed, force fields, and intangibility to buy time even if we assume for some reason that he's going to take a minute or two to "will" blasts of kryptonite radiation. Or red sun energy.
And Superman has flash level Superspeed that makes it highly difficult for anyone to do that.
And his ridiculous punching power means it will take at most two to three punches to ko Surfer.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Cool do you mind posting them?
Yes, I do mind. Get your own damn scans.
Because he lets him know that he's both willing and able to do it, hence it's in character.
No, because he has never done so. Or Superman uses counter vibrations to remove Surfer from existence.
You're asking about why he didn't turn Ben Grim human, the plot absolutely is an explanation.
No, it isn't. Not by your logic where he goes to exploit weaknesses from get go.
No him not using it shows that it didn't come to that nothing more.
If he used it even once in 50 years, maybe.
Right now? He never uses it period.
Now you're asking for proof a negative. It's your claim that Krosakis had Glad's weakness, where was this in anyway suggested? He didn't become stomian, h just absorbed Glad's energy.
Why is that a proof of negative? He had Gladiator's powers, he had his weaknesses as Gladiator wasn't born with the level of power he has. He went to a treatment and that's how he got the radiation weakness.
You're once again running away from proving your points.
He was blasting Hulk to revert him in one encounter, that's not draining.
Where? In Hulk 250 it was simply draining, in S'S 125 it was simply draining and in Order 3 it was Dr Strange who thought of reverting him to another persona.
What do you mean, after what scene?
You can read I presume?
Are you familiar with the issue in question? I'm pretty sure it opens talking about Lunatik's evolutionary abilities.
Where is it stated that he evolved to get off the planet as you claimed?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer can drain his opponents from a distance, Supes can't as far as I know. What's more, I'm not sticking to energy absorption as THE way for Surfer to win so I don't know why you're so hung up on it.
Superman can cover any distance between them with his speed.
You're trying to make it sound like some long, drawn out complicated process for Surfer to use Supes's weaknesses against him and that's simply not the case.
Yes, because he has never actually done it so you can't even show how much time it will take.
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Originally posted by darthgoober
You're a higher caliber of debater than Abhi by a fair share.
I'm higher caliber of debater than you too. Wanna know why? I actually prove what I say and don't rely on the favors of others to do it for me.
I'm ready for BZ as per forum rules anytime gooby, don't start running to judges for favor this time.
Originally posted by leonidasI'd really like to see abhi vs goober, tbh.
@phil--ambient v abhi would be hilarious. i actually can't believe no one has ever bz'd superman v ss before. if this were summer, i'd def take you up on the offer. 👆 of course, we still have our finals to finish. lol
Goober keeps talking shit about him, and I remember the last bz they tried went sideways because goob's opening post was basically shit-talking abhi and whatnot.
The hate is real.
I also think abhi would destroy him, tbh. lol
He knows a lot more about Surfer than goob knows about Superman.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm still willing to judge the BZ between Abhi and goober.I certainly don't think goobers OP was doing anything wrong. Shit talking and their ilk all have their place, I was all set for a good match.
It may look like just shit talking to you but it wasn't and that's why I called him out. He was honestly surprised that I called out saint Goober on his BS. You should've seen his sycophants. It was like I committed some kind of crime.
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But yeah, I would destroy him and he knows it too. That's why he ran away the last time I asked him for BZ.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Phil somehow believes he doesn't shit talk and never ever uses double standards. It isn't because both he and Abhi favor Superman or anything to do with that obvious factoid. Goober would decimate Abhi and he already defeated him with one post. Abhi is just a scan dumper and nothing more.
I'm still willing to judge the BZ between Abhi and goober.I certainly don't think goobers OP was doing anything wrong. Shit talking and their ilk all have their place, I was all set for a good match.