Are these DC characters more powerful than Silver Surfer?

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus18 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
This is like talking to a child with down's syndrome.

Do you even know what's being talked here?

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This is what happens when you hop on a discussion in middle.

Go home rage.

I know exactly what's happening here.

Your dumbass doesn't know how to read and you are claiming Surfer entered Galactus' ship to argue he didn't have a high end durability feat because you're a limp wristed fagg0t.

You'd have a much stronger stance arguing that Surfer hanging on to Galactus' ship was not subjected to the full blast or whatever nonsense to help you sleep at night. Instead you, predictably, chose the dumbest stance

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Not sure if you've read this but this sums up abhi's comprehension skills on full display. Multiple posters holding his hands to explain to him what the scans mean and look at the sheer delusional ignorance.

http://herochat.com/index.php?topic=16898.0

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not sure if you've read this but this sums up abhi's comprehension skills on full display. Multiple posters holding his hands to explain to him what the scans mean and look at the sheer delusional ignorance.

http://herochat.com/index.php?topic=16898.0

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Oh boy. He tried peddling that stupid subspace feat on herochat too eh? Such a moron.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Are you going for that BZ now?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Oh boy. He tried peddling that stupid subspace feat on herochat too eh? Such a moron.

Everytime they tell him to explain himself he dodges and scrambles with incoherence. He may be related to Trump.

#IndiaTrump

He should CLEAVE himself to an anchor and jump off a bridge.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He should CLEAVE himself to an anchor and jump off a bridge.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I know exactly what's happening here.

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Best joke I heard all day.

Your dumbass doesn't know how to read and you are claiming Surfer entered Galactus' ship to argue he didn't have a high end durability feat because you're a limp wristed fagg0t.

Are you claiming he endures the big bang instead?

Why such a sudden penchant for homophobic insults?

Do you want to tell something to us? It's ok, I won't judge you.

You'd have a much stronger stance arguing that Surfer hanging on to Galactus' ship was not subjected to the full blast or whatever nonsense to help you sleep at night. Instead you, predictably, chose the dumbest stance

Instead of thinking he endured the big bang when he himself says he ended up in a void?

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Best joke I heard all day.

Are you claiming he endures the big bang instead?

Why such a sudden penchant for homophobic insults?

Do you want to tell something to us? It's ok, I won't judge you.

Instead of thinking he endured the big bang when he himself says he ended up in a void?

It doesn't matter whether or not he endured a Big Bang you idiot.

My point is that he never entered Galactus' ship and only an idiot would think he did. Unfortunately your argument hinges on that because you're an unintelligent little turd.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Oh boy. He tried peddling that stupid subspace feat on herochat too eh? Such a moron.


I'm not a "limped wrist fagg0t" like you who runs away at slightest chance of anyone not agreeing with me.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He should CLEAVE himself to an anchor and jump off a bridge.

At least be original if you can't even insult properly.

Or ask to your boyfriend to do it for you.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It doesn't matter whether or not he endured a Big Bang you idiot.

And you claim you know what's happening here?

Moron.

My point is that he never entered Galactus' ship and only an idiot would think he did. Unfortunately your argument hinges on that because you're an unintelligent little turd.

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Do tell me what happened there.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not a "limped wrist fagg0t" like you who runs away at slightest chance of anyone not agreeing with me.

At least be original if you can't even insult properly.

Or ask to your boyfriend to do it for you.

He's offered to battlezone you so that isn't running away that's actually challenging you head on. Words matter, India Trump.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not sure if you've read this but this sums up abhi's comprehension skills on full display. Multiple posters holding his hands to explain to him what the scans mean and look at the sheer delusional ignorance.

http://herochat.com/index.php?topic=16898.0

My only takeaway is im glad fangirl still posts

Originally posted by quanchi112
India Trump.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Having more abilities doesn't means you're more powerful. Iron man is more versatile than the Hulk but Hulk is undoubtedly far more powerful.

You are technically correct, but in this case I think the conclusion applies: The Abilities of the Silver Surfer aren't just more versatile than Superman's or the others listed, they far exceed Superman's own with the exception of strength. Superman may have feats which are out of his ordinary, but over-all only his strength is consistently superior to the Surfer's, not his energy projection or manipulation over matter or space.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Versatility=/=power. Never has been.

I didn't say versatility, I said level of ability(ies). Surfer can do more than Superman, and has more ways to win. Not more ways to *fight*, more ways to actually *win*.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So does this mean Thanos or Mangog are less powerful than Surfer?

No because with the exception of speed, Thanos could do practically anything the Silver Surfer can do and more. Again, this is not about versatility, this is about the level of their abilities and what any character would have to offer in a fight. If a character has numerous ways to win a fight over a character who has less ways to win, the probability of victory goes to the former.

Obviously Mangog is more powerful than the Silver Surfer, and again it's not about versatility. Like you said, Iron Man has more technical weapon and abilities than the Hulk, but the Hulk's durability and strength far exceeds anything Iron Man has to offer.

Superman and the Silver Surfer are a close match. We're not talking about Superman VS Spiderman or Superman VS Magneto. We are talking about a cosmic entity who was created to search the galaxies for worlds to be consumed, someone who has unmeasurable speed and countless access to any energy source in the known universe.

Superman CAN defeat the Silver Surfer, obviously, but it's not guaranteed. Superman has to CATCH the Silver Surfer before he can even hope to land a single hit. Superman then has to beat the Silver Surfer with enough time and force to put him out. The Silver Surfer can literally form Kryptonite if he knew the elements that created it. The Silver Surfer can drain any ambient energies from the sun disconnected Superman from any source that would increase his power. Superman's strength would be his greatest asset, but is energy blasts, his freeze-breath, his heat-vision, etc. would just not be enough to subdue the surfer.

Superman would literally have to keep the Surfer contained so he can repeatedly beat him to death. He just hasn't shown the energy projection necessary to subdue the Silver Surfer long-range. The Silver Surfer has more ways to defeat Superman than vise versa. That is why the Silver Surfer is just more powerful. It's not simply about how many abilities the Surfer has, it's about how powerful these abilities are and how he can apply them in this fight.

I'm sorry - Superman is not more powerful. He is by far stronger. He is a stronger minded and stronger-hearted character than the Silver Surfer, yes, I give him that. But he is not more powerful over-all. He's as close as a Kryptonian can possibly be, but he's just not at Surfer's level. Sorry.

Oh lawd.

Warrior Sundipped World War Berserker Abhi incoming.

Originally posted by WolverineX25
You are technically correct, but in this case I think the conclusion applies: The Abilities of the Silver Surfer aren't just more versatile than Superman's or the others listed, they far exceed Superman's own with the exception of strength. Superman may have feats which are out of his ordinary, but over-all only his strength is consistently superior to the Surfer's, not his energy projection or manipulation over matter or space.

I didn't say versatility, I said level of ability(ies). Surfer can do more than Superman, and has more ways to win. Not more ways to *fight*, more ways to actually *win*.

No because with the exception of speed, Thanos could do practically anything the Silver Surfer can do and more. Again, this is not about versatility, this is about the level of their abilities and what any character would have to offer in a fight. If a character has numerous ways to win a fight over a character who has less ways to win, the probability of victory goes to the former.

Obviously Mangog is more powerful than the Silver Surfer, and again it's not about versatility. Like you said, Iron Man has more technical weapon and abilities than the Hulk, but the Hulk's durability and strength far exceeds anything Iron Man has to offer.

Superman and the Silver Surfer are a close match. We're not talking about Superman VS Spiderman or Superman VS Magneto. We are talking about a cosmic entity who was created to search the galaxies for worlds to be consumed, someone who has unmeasurable speed and countless access to any energy source in the known universe.

Superman CAN defeat the Silver Surfer, obviously, but it's not guaranteed. Superman has to CATCH the Silver Surfer before he can even hope to land a single hit. Superman then has to beat the Silver Surfer with enough time and force to put him out. The Silver Surfer can literally form Kryptonite if he knew the elements that created it. The Silver Surfer can drain any ambient energies from the sun disconnected Superman from any source that would increase his power. Superman's strength would be his greatest asset, but is energy blasts, his freeze-breath, his heat-vision, etc. would just not be enough to subdue the surfer.

Superman would literally have to keep the Surfer contained so he can repeatedly beat him to death. He just hasn't shown the energy projection necessary to subdue the Silver Surfer long-range. The Silver Surfer has more ways to defeat Superman than vise versa. That is why the Silver Surfer is just more powerful. It's not simply about how many abilities the Surfer has, it's about how powerful these abilities are and how he can apply them in this fight.

I'm sorry - Superman is not more powerful. He is by far stronger. He is a stronger minded and stronger-hearted character than the Silver Surfer, yes, I give him that. But he is not more powerful over-all. He's as close as a Kryptonian can possibly be, but he's just not at Surfer's level. Sorry.

Prepare thyself

Oh boy....

Was anyone actually arguing that Superman is more "versatile" than Silver Surfer?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Was anyone actually arguing that Superman is more "versatile" than Silver Surfer?

No. But the point was brought up that just because the Silver Surfer is more versatile than Superman it does not make the Surfer more powerful. As you can see, I disagreed.

The Silver Surfer isn't just more "versatile" than Superman, he can do more to win a fight with Supes at their level. Superman would have to rely on his Strength first, then his Speed to defeat the Surfer. That's really all he can offer in that kind of fight. Silver Surfer has more ways to win against Superman which gives him the probability in victory.