Originally posted by MrMind
Majestic- thousands year experienced warrior
who operates at nano second reaction time, strong enough to push planet jupiter, with creation blades that can cut through anything
Should also be able to cut Surfer head off
Surfer is 14 billion years old with nanosecond speed:
Along with intangibility, Force fields, matter manipulation, EP, telepathy, a board that can be used as a weapon, strength amplification, invulnerability, etc.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Who used the ability? Who started the time Travel? If it's Surfer, then that's his feat. Was it strange? Sure,I guess, but unless some other notable event was shown to be responsible for the KO, what we have in front of us is Surfer using an ability and Durok being KO'd because of it.
Surfer caused the time travel. But it wasn't his power. It's like breaking a damn and claiming you destroyed the town which was destroyed by the flood was due to your own power.
That doesn't mean he's more powerful, it just means it was a rare case where he scored a victory on someone above his weight class. And it was in his early career, where he was supposedly a little more respected.
He was so much respected that Durok all but raped him, breaking his board and generally manhandling him like a child?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Didn't we go over this before?https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cleave
Abhil, learn to read and use words you little fagg0t.
This is like talking to a child with down's syndrome.
Do you even know what's being talked here?
Surfer grabbed on to Galactus' ship. At no point do we see him enter Galactus' ship. The scan before and after make it very clear he grabbed on and hung on tight.
God you're stupid. I think you need to CLEAVE yourself to a dictionary.
😂
This is what happens when you hop on a discussion in middle.
Go home rage.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
👆And for anyone bringing up outrunning the destruction of the previous universe yadda yadda, that's not the point.
The act of G's ship splitting the Alpha/Omega is what caused the big bang. All potential matter and energy was contained inside said Alpha/Omega.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-s34bLKlSnrg/WO5EGxWOh8I/AAAAAAADM5M/dMxN6vb6YaMRMpLmyIUgdgKQQmhG7434wCLcB/s1600/071_006.jpgAs far as I know he wasn't inside the incuba-cell to shield him from such an explosion.
Massive feat any way u look at it. Surprising for a herald, I guess? But Surfer is usually considered in the high end of heralds and has a bevy of wtf feats. So not really all that surprising in the end.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't have an opinion one way or another on whether Surfer tanked a big bang.My point is Abhil's getting a wedgie at the idea that he did and throwing out all logic and arguing Surfer took a nap in Galactus' vessel to survive the explosion when that clearly was not the case.
So Surfer tanked the big bang head on or not? Because you keep flipping on like rage does.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wow. Battlezone with Superman using gl subspace routes.Lol.. Never claimed he took on big bang head on. Read before u blow ure load.
U got issues. Seriously...
Originally posted by WolverineX25
[b]More powerful than the Silver Surfer:Superman - NO Superman is stronger, but not more powerful than Surfer.
Ultraman - No
Bizzaro - No
Mr. Majestic - No
Captain Marvel - No
Orion - No
Lobo - NoNo, before I get backlash (lol), please understand: Superman, Ultraman, Lobo, etc. can certainly defeat the Silver Surfer. They have different qualities that can give them the upper hand in a fight with Surf. However, over-all the Silver Surfer is more powerful. He simply has more abilities and more variety over matter and energy. How strong or powerful any of his attacks would be against the list is up for further debate, but none of these characters are at the Silver Surfer's level of general power or ability.
Having more abilities doesn't means you're more powerful. Iron man is more versatile than the Hulk but Hulk is undoubtedly far more powerful.
Ex: While Superman is definitely physically stronger than the Silver Surfer, that is about the only proven advantage he has on him. In other areas of combat or power, the Silver Surfer would still outclass Superman. The Silver Surfer wouldn't defeat Superman with ease, of course, that would be a very difficult fight for him and one he can lose - but Surfer just has more ways to win.
Versatility=/=power. Never has been.
None of these characters, over-all, can truly be classified as being "more powerful" than the Silver Surfer. But not being more powerful doesn't mean you can't defeat the opponent. 😉 [/B]
So does this mean Thanos or Mangog are less powerful than Surfer?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer caused the time travel. But it wasn't his power. It's like breaking a damn and claiming you destroyed the town which was destroyed by the flood was due to your own power.He was so much respected that Durok all but raped him, breaking his board and generally manhandling him like a child?
That example is better, but it would only really work like when Surfer used the crunch's energy to take out T and A.
Which is a far cry from this:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149743/3158574-7415094481-27248.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1031855-719180_thor19328hv7_super.jpg
Where you can see Durok being overwhelmed.
That's neither here nor there. And it certainly doesn't back up whatever you meant by Surfer winning via weakness exploitation or something.
It was a decent, high end feat for Surfer. What is wrong with that?
Originally posted by Damborgson
That example is better, but it would only really work like when Surfer used the crunch's energy to take out T and A.
Not really, both are plot device wins with outside help.
Which is a far cry from this:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149743/3158574-7415094481-27248.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1031855-719180_thor19328hv7_super.jpgWhere you can see Durok being overwhelmed.
By strain of time travel. He is overpowering Surfer otherwise.
That's neither here nor there. And it certainly doesn't back up whatever you meant by Surfer winning via weakness exploitation or something.
It's not "weakness exploitation" as much as bizarre ending. It's akin to Hulk randomly knowing Gladiator's radiation weakness and tossing him into a conveniently located nuclear reactor.
It was a decent, high end feat for Surfer . What is wrong with that?
Except it's not? It's very circumstance based and wouldn't work on anyone who has ever traveled in time.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really, both are plot device wins with outside help.By strain of time travel. He is overpowering Surfer otherwise.
It's not "weakness exploitation" as much as bizarre ending. It's akin to Hulk randomly knowing Gladiator's radiation weakness and tossing him into a conveniently located nuclear reactor.
Except it's not? It's very circumstance based and wouldn't work on anyone who has ever traveled in time.
Oh? Did someone help Surfer achieve that speed?
Doesn't matter. Only Durok was unconscious at the end of it. Is this a non feat because QS only achieved it through speed?
That's not outside help and neither is Surfer's. He did it under his own power, and it resulted in a KO. If it doesn't work on anyone else, it's impossible to say as I believe that's the only time he's done it. Whatever the reason, it was strong enough to drop Durok. Even momentarily. It's high end, early in his career, and only happened once, it's not a standard. But it happened.
Be a man, and admit when you're wrong.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Oh? Did someone help Surfer achieve that speed?
No, but his time travelling is retconned as going through another dimension rather than going through timestream straight up.
Doesn't matter. Only Durok was unconscious at the end of it. Is this a non feat because QS only achieved it through speed?
Except it happened due to Pietro's speed. Now if Quicksilver started a chain reaction which brings entire atmosphere on the guy, it wouldn't be on his speed.
That's not outside help and neither is Surfer's. He did it under his own power, and it resulted in a KO. If it doesn't work on anyone else, it's impossible to say as I believe that's the only time he's done it. Whatever the reason, it was strong enough to drop Durok. Even momentarily. It's high end, early in his career, and only happened once, it's not a standard. But it happened.
So why didn't Durok get koed when Surfer was accelerating?
It wasn't his speed which koed Durok.
For that I need to be wrong in the first place.Be a man, and admit when you're wrong.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂Ran away from the BZ?
How can I run away from something I never claimed?
Numnuts...
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He was not inside big G's ship. If anything, the speech bubble indicates that he was at the rear of the ship where he seems to have clung to. Common sense since he was chasing after it.One has to literally have read another version of the story if they believe he entered the ship.
So now to the feat? Maybe clinging to ship might have offered some kind of protection from the big bang? Hard to reconcile that with obvious fact that there would have been cascading energies from all sides as soon as the big bang hit. But whatever...
Reminds me when he threw a tantrum about me claiming lanterns can't go ftl or some such.
Kinda funny. Yet a little sad at the same time...
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
facepalmHow can I run away from something I never claimed?
Numnuts...It was pretty funny try though.
Reminds me when he threw a tantrum about me claiming lanterns can't go ftl or some such.
Kinda funny. Yet a little sad at the same time...
And Surfer himself said he ended up in a void with the universe slowly forming around him. There was no massive blast for him to survive.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17😂
facepalmHow can I run away from something I never claimed?
Numnuts...It was pretty funny try though.
Reminds me when he threw a tantrum about me claiming lanterns can't go ftl or some such.
Kinda funny. Yet a little sad at the same time...
Abhi can't run fast enough away from Rage either.
