Shang Chi vs batman

Originally posted by Dareangel
the oldest and most childish tactic. when ever you dont have an argument, try to bring the other side down with personal and/or cinical bashing. let me guess, you are liberal right?

You still going with this thing? Noone agrees with you. The premise is silly an your argument is flawed. Think of sparring as a scrimmage game. Noone cares if anyone "wins" or "loses" because its just practice. Not the real thing. Ive practived a form of mma when i was younger and never did anyone use a sparring match as any sort of litmus test. And if you did brag or try your hardest to "beat" soneone you ended up shadow boxing or hitting the body bag alone. But agree to disagree...as for this fight leaning towards wayne

And of course im a Liberal..all the best people are 😆 😆

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You still going with this thing? Noone agrees with you. The premise is silly an your argument is flawed. Think of sparring as a scrimmage game. Noone cares if anyone "wins" or "loses" because its just practice. Not the real thing. Ive practived a form of mma when i was younger and never did anyone use a sparring match as any sort of litmus test. And if you did brag or try your hardest to "beat" soneone you ended up shadow boxing or hitting the body bag alone. But agree to disagree...as for this fight leaning towards wayne

And of course im a Liberal..all the best people are 😆 😆

first of all, you are still going with it yourself. so kinda double standard isnt it? secondly, there is 1 poster who does agree with me. the cosmic guy. what did i say about comprehending the things you read? thirdly, i dont know if you noticed, maybe its just me, but its not exactly a referendum we are having here. there are several, around 3 other people that posted they dont agree with me. so if 4 people dont agree with me that means what exactly? it can mean a lot of things. maybe those people like shang chi? maybe those people simply dont really know what a spar is? maybe they are wrong? i will leave you complete the act act

of course i knew you are a liberal sjw. because you share the same thing all liberal sjw share. nerve breakdowns and emotional thinking without rationality or knowledge. again, i dont need to think anything of sparring because i know what sparring is. i spar almost daily. you make up things based on some belife you have which is based on what? some MMA class you took when you were a kid? really? thats your best? please stop. its like me saying all my knowledge about fighting is based on some karate class that i took when i was a kid and we got cookies at the end of every session. hell, you dont even have to go to a gym. go to youtube and see how sparrings are done. people are knocked out and having their face broken left and right.

Originally posted by Dareangel
first of all, you are still going with it yourself. so kinda double standard isnt it? secondly, there is 1 poster who does agree with me. the cosmic guy. what did i say about comprehending the things you read? thirdly, i dont know if you noticed, maybe its just me, but its not exactly a referendum we are having here. there are several, around 3 other people that posted they dont agree with me. so if 4 people dont agree with me that means what exactly? it can mean a lot of things. maybe those people like shang chi? maybe those people simply dont really know what a spar is? maybe they are wrong? i will leave you complete the act act

of course i knew you are a liberal sjw. because you share the same thing all liberal sjw share. nerve breakdowns and emotional thinking without rationality or knowledge. again, i dont need to think anything of sparring because i know what sparring is. i spar almost daily. you make up things based on some belife you have which is based on what? some MMA class you took when you were a kid? really? thats your best? please stop. its like me saying all my knowledge about fighting is based on some karate class that i took when i was a kid and we got cookies at the end of every session. hell, you dont even have to go to a gym. go to youtube and see how sparrings are done. people are knocked out and having their face broken left and right.

Im done feeding you. Good post though. U really set me straight

Originally posted by Dareangel
of course i knew you are a liberal sjw. because you share the same thing all liberal sjw share. nerve breakdowns and emotional thinking without rationality or knowledge.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im done feeding you. Good post though. U really set me straight

after reading my posts again, i came out as an a$$hole. sorry

Just adding my 2cents in the discussion. Although sparring is not at 100% (everyone agrees with this), There still is force in the blows thrown. And no one likes to lose, even a sparring match. I believe Tyson KO'ed a few of his sparring partners. But that's Tyson. lol. I'm still active in my training and I do see sparring matches get pretty heated.
Especially in MMA. It doesn't stress the self control that traditional MAs teach. Actually, it breeds the killer instinct in it's pupils. And it shows in the sparring matches. I know this is RL and we're talking comics, but I can understand what DareAngel is saying.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Didn't know Sin's husband posted on KMC.

Originally posted by Dareangel
after reading my posts again, i came out as an a$$hole. sorry

Im fine. Never back down

Originally posted by Faceless808
Just adding my 2cents in the discussion. Although sparring is not at 100% (everyone agrees with this), There still is force in the blows thrown. And no one likes to lose, even a sparring match. I believe Tyson KO'ed a few of his sparring partners. But that's Tyson. lol. I'm still active in my training and I do see sparring matches get pretty heated.
Especially in MMA. It doesn't stress the self control that traditional MAs teach. Actually, it breeds the killer instinct in it's pupils. And it shows in the sparring matches. I know this is RL and we're talking comics, but I can understand what DareAngel is saying.

Agreed on all points.

Especially the self control.

Now, we have Shang Chi. I wager his self control is pretty damn high.

To the point that, if you were to hit him and he goes down, he's not going to go after you in revenge or whatever. He'll just move on from it. Without any killer instinct. Because he's all about force, but only when necessary.

So in that scan,when Cap hit him and he went down....to claim that he didn't jump up and continue the fight because he was physically unable to, is false.

Shang won't even use excessive force on a hungry shark in the water, admonishing Danny for using his Iron Fist.

So yeah.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Agreed on all points.

Especially the self control.

Now, we have Shang Chi. I wager his self control is pretty damn high.

To the point that, if you were to hit him and he goes down, he's not going to go after you in revenge or whatever. He'll just move on from it. Without any killer instinct. Because he's all about force, but only when necessary.

So in that scan,when Cap hit him and he went down....to claim that he didn't jump up and continue the fight because he was physically unable to, is false.

you cant come in and call something false, which is basically stating something as a fact, based on speculations like you just did. you assume shang chi wouldnt want to continue sparring and just rather sit on his butt because you think you know exactly what ran thru his head during that moment, without it actually being stated. those are speculations and you cant call something false based on them.

Originally posted by cdtm
Shang won't even use excessive force on a hungry shark in the water, admonishing Danny for using his Iron Fist.

So yeah.

yeah shang doesnt even believe in fighting and sparring. he actually was there as a punching bag for cap. a peaceful nature loving punching bag. oh you mean the moment he took cap down and was trying to punch him but got blocked? never happened. shang chi is just a little ball of spirituality that never fights. he fights his opponents with love

Don't take my word for it.

And when he doesn't want to, he just stops mid-fight if it serves no purpose. He'd even let others kill him before he would fight seriously:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/148326/4208053-7042397461-87701.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Don't take my word for it.

And when he doesn't want to, he just stops mid-fight if it serves no purpose. He'd even let others kill him before he would fight seriously:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/148326/4208053-7042397461-87701.jpg

and again, i never claimed shang chi went 100% on cap. i am repeating my claim again. shang chi while sparring with cap, didnt go 100% but was fighting. he took cap down and he tried to punch him and kick him, no question about that. if cap didnt avoid or blocked that, he would have eaten a kick to the face or a punch.

now, when cap hits him with an elbow, shang chi drops down. that proves less than 100% cap can knock him down with a stike. then, we see shang chi still on the floor and cap is reaching his arm to help shang. to me, thats an indication he needed a hand there as was portrayed. not saying he was knocked out or badly injured, i am not a fool. however, that portray is meant to show us a less than 100% strike from cap is enough to stun shang chi and end the sparring. why didnt shang chi stop the sparring after he took cap down? why was he trying to punch him? you are basically choosing a new argument that shang chi in nature doesnt like to hurt anyone for nothing. however, it has no place in this thread because in this thread we already are discussing a fight (not full power) that shang chi did take part in. so there is no point in bringing his calm nature into a situation where he is already fighting and all sides agree he wasnt fighting 100%. in addition, shang chi didnt want to get hit i can promise you that. nor does his durability drops because its a sparring. therefor, i still believe my initial claim stands. now, i will go with you even further. bringing shang chi's nature, does not mean in some other specific situation he will act the same. you cant know what is going thru his mind in a specific situation , therefor, you cant determine as a fact what was he thinking about during that specific moment, unless the writer tells us. all you can do is assume based on this and that. assumptions, are not a base to determine facts.

Lol, people just now posting Heroic Age bios.

Indeed. I also backed it up with a scan.

Shang isn't the Punisher. He doesn't seek revenge. In a sparring match, if you tag him, he's not going to jump back up and start looking to score a point on you.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Indeed. I also backed it up with a scan.

Shang isn't the Punisher. He doesn't seek revenge. In a sparring match, if you tag him, he's not going to jump back up and start looking to score a point on you.

i already addressed that and explained. is it now a mere question of who will have the last word?

Not really. You can have it if you want. I've already given my opinion, several times, as to who wins in this match. You want to make that sparring match more than just a sparring match where neither side is being serious, and you have a combatant who doesn't like violence even when fighting evil - let alone In a sparring match with a friend - go ahead. You'll be wrong,and alone, just like you were when you argued an unconscious Wolverine was slashing WWH.

So go ahead and have the last post. Doesn't mean anything,like that sparring match.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Indeed. I also backed it up with a scan.

Shang isn't the Punisher. He doesn't seek revenge. In a sparring match, if you tag him, he's not going to jump back up and start looking to score a point on you.

And now I'm imagining Beyonder switching up Shang and Castle

No one dies in the mob, and Fu Manchu keeps admonishing Castle against using "machinegun fu"..

"BE the bullet, Frank"

"Open your heart to peace.....and theirs to bullets"

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not really. You can have it if you want. I've already given my opinion, several times, as to who wins in this match. You want to make that sparring match more than just a sparring match where neither side is being serious, and you have a combatant who doesn't like violence even when fighting evil - let alone In a sparring match with a friend - go ahead. You'll be wrong,and alone, just like you were when you argued an unconscious Wolverine was slashing WWH.

So go ahead and have the last post. Doesn't mean anything,like that sparring match.

i never claimed this sparring match is more than i claimed it is. what did i claim it is? well its only spreaded on all the pages of this thread, so i dont feel like i really have to repeat myself. honestly, at this point it seems like you are not even trying to understand my point, but just try and portray it as something else, just so you can have the "win". you know very well i never claimed this sparring match is actually some evidence to how batman and shang will hang. i just thought its cool to bring it in here for people to notice his latest spar vs cap, maybe it will give ideas. also, i stated how i translate that spar into feats. but i never claimed it has much to do with batman vs shang.