Originally posted by FrothByte
And how do you know he won't get hit? He's never faced an enhanced fighter like TChalla before. Someone who is fast enough to keep up with cars in a freeway.
But remember, according to H1, those cars were going like 5 - 10 mph lol.
Never mind the fact that Steve was shown as being able to run at 26 mph for half an hour straight, without tiring out, in TWS. And common sense and logic dictates he would push harder during a potentially life and death chase than a morning "jog" (his version of it at least). So, while pursuing Bucky, he chose to steal a car and then chase him down at a slower speed than he can run. 🙄
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
But remember, according to H1, those cars were going like 5 - 10 mph lol.Never mind the fact that Steve was shown as being able to run at 26 mph for half an hour straight, without tiring out, in TWS. And common sense and logic dictates he would push harder during a potentially life and death chase than a morning "jog" (his version of it at least). So, while pursuing Bucky, he chose to steal a car and then chase him down at a slower speed than he can run. 🙄
Remember, applying h1a8's logic also results in Ozy not having enhanced perceptions or reactions.
Originally posted by FrothByte
And how do you know he won't get hit? He's never faced an enhanced fighter like TChalla before. Someone who is fast enough to keep up with cars in a freeway.Majority of Ozy's defense were also composed of blocks, more so than dodges. How's he going to block hits from an opponent stronger than him?
TChalla matched strengths with Bucky and Cap, both of whom have lots of strength feats that put them above Ozy.
1.The cars were moving slowly as I proven a long time ago.
2. Bullets are many times faster than a car.
3. I can block someone 3x stronger than me.
Ozy can parry. Ozy is stronger actually.
4. T'Challa did not match strength with Bucky or Cap. What wrestling match did you see?
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerYou are an idiot. When the cars were moving at around 10mph, they were flying past them. That means they were running faster. Where is your mind?
But remember, according to H1, those cars were going like 5 - 10 mph lol.Never mind the fact that Steve was shown as being able to run at 26 mph for half an hour straight, without tiring out, in TWS. And common sense and logic dictates he would push harder during a potentially life and death chase than a morning "jog" (his version of it at least). So, while pursuing Bucky, he chose to steal a car and then chase him down at a slower speed than he can run. 🙄
Originally posted by h1a8
1.The cars were moving slowly as I proven a long time ago.
2. Bullets are many times faster than a car.
3. I can block someone 3x stronger than me.
Ozy can parry. Ozy is stronger actually.
4. T'Challa did not match strength with Bucky or Cap. What wrestling match did you see?
Again using your standards, Ozy doesn't have any enhanced stats at all.
Originally posted by h1a8
1.The cars were moving slowly as I proven a long time ago.
2. Bullets are many times faster than a car.
3. I can block someone 3x stronger than me.
Ozy can parry. Ozy is stronger actually.
4. T'Challa did not match strength with Bucky or Cap. What wrestling match did you see?You are an idiot. When the cars were moving at around 10mph, they were flying past them. That means they were running faster. Where is your mind?
You're the only idiot, and didn't prove shit. You spewed your opinion on their speed, while ignoring all the evidence other people presented. You also ignored that even after Cap stole a car, he still had trouble catching up, even though Bucky was still on foot for quite some time until eventually stealing a bike. Or how T'Challa managed to keep up with Cap's car, from behind, on foot, and jump onto it. And when Nibedicus actually BZ challenged you on it, and your claims on the car speeds, you ran away like a coward. Instead of actually putting your claims up to proper scrutiny, you tried to invent some conspiracy theory against you. So, you pretending like you won that debate, when you actually ran when it came down to putting your money where your mouth is, is hilarious.
You want to talk about writer's intent? The writer's intent in that scene is blatantly obvious. So obvious that you are the only person I have ever seen to draw your conclusion. Everyone else reached a different conclusion. Which shows just how well the writers did, in fact, convey their intent. That only one dumbass troll couldn't understand it.
Originally posted by Silent Master
It follows directly from the choices you presented to explain the Bucky / Tony scene. I just picked the other choice and applied it to Ozy's scenes.
Don't you also love how he tries to claim his opinion is writer's intent, when it suits him. But with things like the CW chase scene, where the writer's intent is plainly obvious, he starts making up his own nonsense instead. It says a lot that out of dozens of forums, news sites, video sites, personal discussions with friends etc. everyone else I have encountered took that scene as a very high speed, frantic chase among super soldiers, and that the cars were moving at regular speeds. H1 is the only person I have ever seen try and spin his specific narrative on that scene. Yet he is probably going to come out and claim that literally everyone else is wrong and that he is right, but refuse to actually debate the topic in a BZ, if challenged.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Don't you also love how he tries to claim his opinion is writer's intent, when it suits him. But with things like the CW chase scene, where the writer's intent is plainly obvious, he starts making up his own nonsense instead. It says a lot that out of dozens of forums, news sites, video sites, personal discussions with friends etc. everyone else I have encountered took that scene as a very high speed, frantic chase among super soldiers, and that the cars were moving at regular speeds. H1 is the only person I have ever seen try and spin his specific narrative on that scene. Yet he is probably going to come out and claim that literally everyone else is wrong and that he is right, but refuse to actually debate the topic in a BZ, if challenged.
He is also using visual speed as the basis for his claim that the cars were moving slowly, yet he refuses to use visual speed when determining how fast Ozy was moving during the bullet catch scene.
It's almost like he has a double standard, isn't it?
Originally posted by Silent Master
He is also using visual speed as the basis for his claim that the cars were moving slowly, yet he refuses to use visual speed when determining how fast Ozy was moving during the bullet catch scene.It's almost like he has a double standard, isn't it?
Well, like I said, this is a case where writer's intent is in fact obvious. So obvious that virtually everyone else drew the same conclusion from watching it.
According to h1. h1 is always right. We are always wrong. Unless we agree with him 100%. Then we are right too. Otherwise, no. Facts don't matter. Direct producer/creator/actor statements don't matter. Feats don't matter. All that matters is h1 is right to h1 and refuses to be wrong regardless of how wrong he actually is.
Imp. Seriously. What the f*ck?
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, like I said, this is a case where writer's intent is in fact obvious. So obvious that virtually everyone else drew the same conclusion from watching it.
It is rather amusing watching him make an argument that he says proves one of two things, he then picks the option that helps his case and when you naturally pick the other option, he claims you are no longer following his logic.
He doesn't seem to comprehend that by saying something proves either A or B, he is admitting that both A and B are valid answers.
Originally posted by Silent Master
It is rather amusing watching him make an argument that he says proves one of two things, he then picks the option that helps his case and when you naturally pick the other option, he claims you are no longer following his logic.He doesn't seem to comprehend that by saying something proves either A or B, he is admitting that both A and B are valid answers.
See that's logical. But we're dealing with h1. So what he means is, something proves either A or B...whichever I(h1) chooses, is what's proven and the other is invalid. I won't prove my stance, but I will say over and over again I'm right and ignore all evidence to the contrary.
Originally posted by h1a8
1.The cars were moving slowly as I proven a long time ago.
2. Bullets are many times faster than a car.
3. I can block someone 3x stronger than me.
Ozy can parry. Ozy is stronger actually.
4. T'Challa did not match strength with Bucky or Cap. What wrestling match did you see?
1. You mean your trollish "proof" that you conjured from thin air and everyone laughed at?
2. Yes and? Moving your hand is many times easier than running.
3. I'll believe it when I see it. Prove that Ozy is stronger than Tchalla.
4. Guess you missed the part where BP put Bucky in an armbar or when Bucky couldn't stop BP's claws from inching towards his throat or when BP was able to pull down Cap's shield.
Originally posted by Silent Master
It is rather amusing watching him make an argument that he says proves one of two things, he then picks the option that helps his case and when you naturally pick the other option, he claims you are no longer following his logic.He doesn't seem to comprehend that by saying something proves either A or B, he is admitting that both A and B are valid answers.
Yeah, it is extra funny considering he was the one who insisted it had to be one or the other when it was the MCU characters being discussed. So, if he is claiming you are no longer following his logic, it means he is now applying different logic to this separate case, which just further proves his double standards.