Originally posted by h1a8Bucky used nearly his full strength as I have proven. You keep trolling and talking about others. Talk about Bucky, no one else. Did he or didn't he use nearly full might? The elbow was delivered viciously to the face.
Proven? Do you mean the time you claimed that yelling can somehow overcome physics?
No, he didn't use his full might. It was a set-up shot for the straight punch he delivered right after. And even this short jab was enough to turn the side of Tony's face into a grape.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Proven? Do you mean the time you claimed that yelling can somehow overcome physics?No, he didn't use his full might. It was a set-up shot for the straight punch he delivered right after. And even this short jab was enough to turn the side of Tony's face into a grape.
It's hilarious how the guy who has spent pages and pages dancing around the actual relevant feat (T'Challa tanking the metal arm), and using blatant double standards when discussing the MCU characters vs the Watchmen, is accusing you of trolling, simply because you refuse to blindly accept his personal opinion about a noise. Especially when you have repeatedly tried to steer the discussion back on topic (to Ozy & T'Challa, not Bucky & Tony).
It says a lot about H1's warped mindset that he thinks his antics are totally justified and valid, but disagreeing with him and trying to get things back on track is trolling lol.
Originally posted by Silent Master
According to h1's logic, this lady is using 100% of her strength
This was super super uncomfortable to watch. I had to stop it at 14 seconds.
Holy shit, the cringe.
I didn't know women could be a level 9 neckbeard.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yup. He knows he can't win a proper debate regarding the 2 people in this fight. For example he claimed that Ozy is stronger, when I asked him to prove it he completely ignores the question and sidetracks back to Tony.
Same with my point that even if we accept his protection nonsense, 2 blows were still enough to down Tony. T'Challa took numerous hits from that same arm, as well as a metal arm haymaker (which, by feats, has at least twice as much power behind it) to the chest, and didn't have a scratch on him. So, regardless of H1's crap, the scene establishes that T'Challa is much more durable than any normal human. And this is supported by the actual Writer's Intent, as conveyed by the Russos, during an interview, who literally mentions that scene as one of the ways they chose to highlight T'Challa's enhanced nature.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Proven? Do you mean the time you claimed that yelling can somehow overcome physics?No, he didn't use his full might. It was a set-up shot for the straight punch he delivered right after. And even this short jab was enough to turn the side of Tony's face into a grape.
What’s wrong with the word “nearly “? Why do you ignore it and ignore the strain on his face to create a strawman?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Bucky's metal arm is not equal to his normal arm, therefore feats involving his human arm don't prove anything either directly or indirectly about his metal arm.IOW, you're wrong.
Of course it does. Just because you say so, doesn’t make it so.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerIt’s trolling to ignore key words of someone post and restate their argument in a false way. It’s also trolling to ignore evidence (I have the face strain evidence 4 times and he ignored it all 4 times. He is only addressing the yell. So let’s not address the strongest argument. Let’s ignore that one.
It's hilarious how the guy who has spent pages and pages dancing around the actual relevant feat (T'Challa tanking the metal arm), and using blatant double standards when discussing the MCU characters vs the Watchmen, is accusing you of trolling, simply because you refuse to blindly accept his personal opinion about a noise. Especially when you have repeatedly tried to steer the discussion back on topic (to Ozy & T'Challa, not Bucky & Tony).It says a lot about H1's warped mindset that he thinks his antics are totally justified and valid, but disagreeing with him and trying to get things back on track is trolling lol.
Originally posted by h1a8
What’s wrong with the word “nearly “? Why do you ignore it and ignore the strain on his face to create a strawman?
"Nearly" as in very close to full strength? Yeah no. I don't think you understand how a jab works.
Why do you ignore physics and technique? You can put as much strain and yelling as you want into a hit, it won't change physics and technique. Why do you keep ignoring this? Ignore this one more time and you'll be admitting you're a troll.
Hmmm. h1 seems to mysteriously be the only person on this or any other thread that I suddenly can't quote.
Quoted from h1a8 - It’s trolling to ignore key words of someone post and restate their argument in a false way.[b] It’s also trolling to [b]ignore evidence (I have the face strain evidence 4 times and he ignored it all 4 times. He is only addressing the yell. So let’s not address the strongest argument. Let’s ignore that one.
You realize everything I bolded is what you are guilty of? Every single time? Or are you going to ignore the mountains of evidence in all these threads? You're such a troll you accuse anyone who calls you on your shit a troll themselves. You're the worst kind of person. Well, you and Quan.
Originally posted by FrothByte
"Nearly" as in very close to full strength? Yeah no. I don't think you understand how a jab works.Why do you ignore physics and technique? You can put as much strain and yelling as you want into a hit, it won't change physics and technique. Why do you keep ignoring this? Ignore this one more time and you'll be admitting you're a troll.
I said "nearly" all his might. That means effort, not what type of attack.
A jab from a superhuman should kill, or ko a human. And this is a vicious elbow.
Put it this way. The exact elbow Bucky gave Tony would have done exactly the same thing if it came from a human.
Originally posted by h1a8
I said "nearly" all his might. That means effort, not what type of attack.
A jab from a superhuman should kill, or ko a human. And this is a vicious elbow.Put it this way. The exact elbow Bucky gave Tony would have done exactly the same thing if it came from a human.
Prove it.
Originally posted by h1a8
I said "nearly" all his might. That means effort, not what type of attack.
A jab from a superhuman should kill, or ko a human. And this is a vicious elbow.Put it this way. The exact elbow Bucky gave Tony would have done exactly the same thing if it came from a human.
No. Just no. A short elbow jab like that if delivered by a human would have at most made a small cut on the cheekbone, maybe given a black eye of it landed near enough the eye. Mostly all it would do is give you a reddish puffy cheek, especially if you're fighting someone who's not stationary and knows how to roll with a punch. It's not really that strong, not the way WS did it. He didn't put his weight into it nor torque his torso. All he used was his shoulder muscle to propel that hit and it turned Tony's face into a big purple bruise. That's proof of Bucky's superhuman strength.
You've proven time and again that you don't know how fighting works. I have laid down some facts for you, so are you going to ignore them again like a troll?
And again you're ignoring the fact that Bucky didn't mean for that hit to be a knockout blow, he used it as a setup for his straight punch.
Originally posted by FrothByte
No. Just no. A short elbow jab like that if delivered by a human would have at most made a small cut on the cheekbone, maybe given a black eye of it landed near enough the eye. Mostly all it would do is give you a reddish puffy cheek, especially if you're fighting someone who's not stationary and knows how to roll with a punch. It's not really that strong, not the way WS did it. He didn't put his weight into it nor torque his torso. All he used was his shoulder muscle to propel that hit and it turned Tony's face into a big purple bruise. That's proof of Bucky's superhuman strength.You've proven time and again that you don't know how fighting works. I have laid down some facts for you, so are you going to ignore them again like a troll?
And again you're ignoring the fact that Bucky didn't mean for that hit to be a knockout blow, he used it as a setup for his straight punch.
H1, the so-called martial arts expert, doesn't understand the concept of a combo.