Originally posted by h1a8
Black Widow survived. And T'Challa clothes weren't damaged.Also a building falling on you doesn't have to damage your clothes. Even the woman wasn't visibly damaged outside of something falling on her leg.
Again, Black Widow took cover. T'Challa ran at the blast. Keep ignoring that. Unless you are trying to argue that taking cover doesn't help in that kind of situation. In which case, LOL.
And blatantly ignoring the rocket impact (or explosion, which is what the real comparison here is) part of the point. Also, as was stated directly in the show, the woman who was with Luke survived because he protected her. As I said, despite the explosion, his clothes were unharmed. So, again, using your argument here, Luke Cage taking a direct hit from a rocket launcher isn't a valid durability feat.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Again, Black Widow took cover. T'Challa ran at the blast. Keep ignoring that. Unless you are trying to argue that taking cover doesn't help in that kind of situation. In which case, LOL.And blatantly ignoring the rocket impact (or explosion, which is what the real comparison here is) part of the point. Also, as was stated directly in the show, the woman who was with Luke survived because he protected her. As I said, despite the explosion, his clothes were unharmed. So, again, using your argument here, Luke Cage taking a direct hit from a rocket launcher isn't a valid durability feat.
Taking cover behind those seats doesn't make you go from dieing to having 0 injuries. Especially when a bunch of others took cover too. It wasn't good cover at all.
The scene simply can't be used. Too many contradictions.
Originally posted by h1a8
Taking cover behind those seats doesn't make you go from dieing to having 0 injuries. Especially when a bunch of others took cover too. It wasn't good cover at all.
The scene simply can't be used. Too many contradictions.
Multiple people took cover and survived (like Black Widow). Multiple people didn't (like T'Challa) and died. The scene is clear as day. There are zero contradictions. You are making shit up because you dislike the feat. T'Challa's own father had minimal clothing damage, and he was right at the center of the blast. And, again, ignoring the fact that your retarded logic results in a blatant durability feat for Luke Cage being thrown out the window.
But screw it. I am not the others. I am not going to put up with your trolling for another 20 pages. Let's BZ the validity of the explosion as a durability feat. If you refuse, I will take it as a concession that you are just trolling for attention.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Multiple people took cover and survived (like Black Widow). Multiple people didn't (like T'Challa) and died. The scene is clear as day. There are zero contradictions. You are making shit up because you dislike the feat. T'Challa's own father had minimal clothing damage, and he was right at the center of the blast. And, again, ignoring the fact that your retarded logic results in a blatant durability feat for Luke Cage being thrown out the window.But screw it. I am not the others. I am not going to put up with your trolling for another 20 pages. Let's BZ the validity of the explosion as a durability feat. If you refuse, I will take it as a concession that you are just trolling for attention.
The woman with Luke Cage survived without any visible injuries, other than something falling on her leg.
70 people injured and 12 people dead. Black Widow has no injuries. She took cover just like every one. The scene was stupid and have contradictions. It was an error in movie making (just like every other action movie). Nothing is reliable. We must go on intentions. There was no intention that was a durability feat. Plus age could be a factor, the fact that father had minimal clothing damage shows that he was very weak.
Originally posted by h1a8
The woman with Luke Cage survived without any visible injuries, other than something falling on her leg.
So, what? They tell us he protected her. They tell us he was the one that took the direct hit from the rocket launcher. Yet, despite the fact that he took a direct hit from an explosive projectile, causing a blast powerful enough to bring down the whole building, his clothes were unharmed. Which, according to you, is a sign the writer did not intend it to count as a durability feat. You keep dodging this because you know it blows a huge hole in one of your supposed "contradictions".
Originally posted by h1a8
70 people injured and 12 people dead. Black Widow has no injuries. She took cover just like every one. The scene was stupid and have contradictions. It was an error in movie making (just like every other action movie). Nothing is reliable. We must go on intentions. There was no intention that was a durability feat. Plus age could be a factor, the fact that father had minimal clothing damage shows that he was very weak.
Nope. The scene is clear. People close to the blast out of cover died. People further away, huddled behind the podiums, survived. Black Panther even shouted the warning that allowed them to take cover. I am going by writer's intent. If the writer didn't intend the bomb to be a serious threat, he would not have had Black Panther shout a warning to the others. I am going by what was shown and said. You are coming up with BS nonsense like "Maybe T'Chaka was weak", which is based solely on your personal opinion about said scene. Not to mention, we visibly see the destruction the blast caused the building itself as well. And this is all even after Robtard posted a screenshot of how T'Challa (unlike Black Widow and the people huddled, who you keep insisting on making comparisons with) got flung by the blast.
Now, again, I challenge you to a BZ as to the validity of the thread. If you are so sure of your position, it should be a cakewalk for you.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerHe didn't get hit directly, and getting hit from a rocket does not protect you from the explosion. The whole building exploded in all directions. She should have had injuries or been dead.
So, what? They tell us he protected her. They tell us he was the one that took the direct hit from the rocket launcher. Yet, despite the fact that he took a direct hit from an explosive projectile, causing a blast powerful enough to bring down the whole building, his clothes were unharmed. Which, according to you, is a sign the writer did not intend it to count as a durability feat. You keep dodging this because you know it blows a huge hole in one of your supposed "contradictions".
Nope. The scene is clear. People close to the blast out of cover died. People further away, huddled behind the podiums, survived. Black Panther even shouted the warning that allowed them to take cover. I am going by writer's intent. If the writer didn't intend the bomb to be a serious threat, he would not have had Black Panther shout a warning to the others. I am going by what was shown and said. You are coming up with BS nonsense like "Maybe T'Chaka was weak", which is based solely on your personal opinion about said scene. Not to mention, we visibly see the destruction the blast caused the building itself as well. And this is all even after Robtard posted a screenshot of how T'Challa (unlike Black Widow and the people huddled, who you keep insisting on making comparisons with) got flung by the blast.
Now, again, I challenge you to a BZ as to the validity of the thread. If you are so sure of your position, it should be a cakewalk for you.
Black Widow was in the front. Stop making stuff up. You don't know who died and who lived.
It simply makes no sense to huddle behind basically nothing and not have any injuries vs. dieing. There is a huge difference between no injuries and death. HUGE!
Originally posted by h1a8
He didn't get hit directly, and getting hit from a rocket does not protect you from the explosion. The whole building exploded in all directions. She should have had injuries or been dead.
Yes, he was. It was confirmed in The Defenders. And Luke shielded her, as was mentioned on his own show. His body's cells were described as being super elastic and extra energy absorbent. So, based on his powerset, him shielding her fits with her surviving. So, good job lying.
Originally posted by h1a8
Black Widow was in the front. Stop making stuff up. You don't know who died and who lived.It simply makes no sense to huddle behind basically nothing and not have any injuries vs. dieing. There is a huge difference between no injuries and death. HUGE!
She was much further away from the blast than T'Challa. She visibly ducked behind a podium. She was not flung through the air. The explosion tore a huge hole in the side of the building. Multiple people have brought up these points and more, including Robtard and myself. All you have done is spout your opinion as writer's intent, like you usually do, and invent contradictions where there are perfectly reasonable explanations.
Anyway, I am done playing this game with you. It's clear you are too much of a coward to put your money where your mouth is and accept the BZ. So, as far as I am concerned, you are not worth indulging any further. Call me when you actually grow some balls.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yes, he was. It was confirmed in The Defenders. And Luke shielded her, as was mentioned on his own show. His body's cells were described as being super elastic and extra energy absorbent. So, based on his powerset, him shielding her fits with her surviving. So, good job lying.She was much further away from the blast than T'Challa. She visibly ducked behind a podium. She was not flung through the air. The explosion tore a huge hole in the side of the building. Multiple people have brought up these points and more, including Robtard and myself. All you have done is spout your opinion as writer's intent, like you usually do, and invent contradictions where there are perfectly reasonable explanations.
Anyway, I am done playing this game with you. It's clear you are too much of a coward to put your money where your mouth is and accept the BZ. So, as far as I am concerned, you are not worth indulging any further. Call me when you actually grow some balls.
Show the clip or give the episode number. If he absorbed the impact then how do you explain the AOE damage to the entire building, right after the explosion?
Black Widow was basically in the first row. She did not die or have any injuries. Yet it makes sense that people behind her (further away), who took cover as well, died and had injuries? The blast only blew T'Challa back several feet. There was no clothing damage. Black Widow wasn't hurt while being in the front. Too many inconsistencies.
Originally posted by h1a8
Show the clip or give the episode number. If he absorbed the impact then how do you explain the AOE damage to the entire building, right after the explosion?Black Widow was basically in the first row. She did not die or have any injuries. Yet it makes sense that people behind her (further away), who took cover as well, died and had injuries? The blast only blew T'Challa back several feet. There was no clothing damage. Black Widow wasn't hurt while being in the front. Too many inconsistencies.
It's brought up during a conversation between Luke Cage and Iron Fist on episode 6 of Defenders. So, thank you for letting everyone know that you haven't watched that show. And I didn't say it absorbed the entire explosion. But he could soak up enough to protect her. Again, we are explicitly told that he protected her. They even bring up how he saved her at later points as well. Seriously, did you even watch that, or just youtube some vids? Oh, and don't think I am falling for your distraction tactics here, trying to move the conversation to the woman, instead of the fact that, despite the explosion, Luke's clothes were fine. The sheer fact that you keep dodging that in favour of focusing on something that isn't even relevant to the original point (clothing damage caused by explosions) shows what a troll you are.
And I don't give a shit about what you keep spouting about BW. Unless you accept the BZ, your claims mean nothing.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
It's brought up during a conversation between Luke Cage and Iron Fist on episode 6 of Defenders. So, thank you for letting everyone know that you haven't watched that show. And I didn't say it absorbed the entire explosion. But he could soak up enough to protect her. Again, we are explicitly told that he protected her. They even bring up how he saved her at later points as well. Seriously, did you even watch that, or just youtube some vids? Oh, and don't think I am falling for your distraction tactics here, trying to move the conversation to the woman, instead of the fact that, despite the explosion, Luke's clothes were fine. The sheer fact that you keep dodging that in favour of focusing on something that isn't even relevant to the original point (clothing damage caused by explosions) shows what a troll you are.And I don't give a shit about what you keep spouting about BW. Unless you accept the BZ, your claims mean nothing.
Again it did AOE explosion and damage to the building. How could he have protected her by getting hit directly when the building around her got the explosion force?
I watched the Luke Cage series but not all of Defenders. I'll watch episode 6.
If BW didn't have any damage, then we get inconsistencies.
Originally posted by h1a8
Again it did AOE explosion and damage to the building. How could he have protected her by getting hit directly when the building around her got the explosion force?I watched the Luke Cage series but not all of Defenders. I'll watch episode 6.
If BW didn't have any damage, then we get inconsistencies.
I already explained, but guess I have to dumb it down even further. He only needed to protect her from the portion of the blast that would have hit her, which his powers and the size of his body would have allowed (especially if she was on the other side of his body to where the rocket impacted, which is how it looks in the scene, as he pushes her down in front of him IIRC, and the rocket hits from behind). And regardless of whether it makes sense to you, personally, the writers make their intentions clear by giving us multiple pieces of dialogue that tell us he saved her. After all, according to your own arguments with regards to the Supergirl key feat and Jimmy's claim etc. character statements represent writer's intent.
But anyway, I am done responding to you. You won't accept the BZ. You won't address the relevant part of the Luke Cage point, despite me asking you multiple times to do so. Responding to your posts at this point is not worth the time it takes me to write them out.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
so.. who's hoping the Superbowl will be more exciting and entertaining than any of the threads that H1 goes into?
I just skip his posts now. If my dog could type he'd make more sense, as clearly he's smarter. I used to suspect he was a troll but I've since decided he's just a sad, lonely idiot with too much time and no friends.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I already explained, but guess I have to dumb it down even further. He only needed to protect her from the portion of the blast that would have hit her, which his powers and the size of his body would have allowed (especially if she was on the other side of his body to where the rocket impacted, which is how it looks in the scene, as he pushes her down in front of him IIRC, and the rocket hits from behind). And regardless of whether it makes sense to you, personally, the writers make their intentions clear by giving us multiple pieces of dialogue that tell us he saved her. After all, according to your own arguments with regards to the Supergirl key feat and Jimmy's claim etc. character statements represent writer's intent.But anyway, I am done responding to you. You won't accept the BZ. You won't address the relevant part of the Luke Cage point, despite me asking you multiple times to do so. Responding to your posts at this point is not worth the time it takes me to write them out.
Bottomline: We can't quantify the feat due to multiple contradictions. We have no idea how much force operated on him. At face value (looking at his speed of being pushed back) then it wasn't more a human could take. Even if it was, then it is not outside of Ozy's strength range. It takes multiple tons of force to do some of Ozy's feats.
Originally posted by h1a8
Bottomline: We can't quantify the feat due to multiple contradictions. We have no idea how much force operated on him. At face value (looking at his speed of being pushed back) then it wasn't more a human could take. Even if it was, then it is not outside of Ozy's strength range. It takes multiple tons of force to do some of Ozy's feats.
Bottomline: You don't want to quantify the feat due to it hurting you argument.