flash has stolen the speed of a planet, he could certainly steal the speed of the league. in a forum setting flash could absolutely beat the league. we do have some depictions of superman being close but he doesn't (to my knowledge) have a way of handling a speed steal that could, potentially, leave him in the same state inertia was left in.
Originally posted by leonidas
flash has stolen the speed of a planet, he could certainly steal the speed of the league. in a forum setting flash could absolutely beat the league. we do have some depictions of superman being close but he doesn't (to my knowledge) have a way of handling a speed steal that could, potentially, leave him in the same state inertia was left in.
Exactly, and none of them have an answer to his form of speed. The Speed Force is an awesome power source.
Originally posted by leonidas
flash has stolen the speed of a planet, he could certainly steal the speed of the league. in a forum setting flash could absolutely beat the league. we do have some depictions of superman being close but he doesn't (to my knowledge) have a way of handling a speed steal that could, potentially, leave him in the same state inertia was left in.
I don't for a second buy that the Flash could steal Superman's speed.
It's just him absorbing kinetic energy, and I don't see why his energy control should trump Superman or Jordan's.
He could cut them off from the speed-force, but that's only something that works on DC characters.
I think the Flash would win this because he could hammer them all to death at superspeed 👆
Originally posted by krisblaze
I don't for a second buy that the Flash could steal Superman's speed.It's just him absorbing kinetic energy, and I don't see why his energy control should trump Superman or Jordan's.
He could cut them off from the speed-force, but that's only something that works on DC characters.
I think the Flash would win this because he could hammer them all to death at superspeed 👆
Jay Garrick has done it.
And he isn't as skilled as Wally.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Yeah it's just not consistent with the in-universe logic.Anyone with control over kinetic energy could destroy any JLA lineup then.
👆. Like a.....Flash? 😛
It's like Hal and his will, I guess. Logically, his ring shouldn't have more than 100% will power, or he shouldn't override Guardians or whatever.
Wally is just connected to the kinetic energy of everyone,that's his shtick.
That's why we have PIS like he trips over something or whatever.
But manipulating the speed-force and absorbing kinetic energy is a bit different imo.
If he's manipulating the speed-force innate to someone or whatever then that's different from simply absorbing their kinetic energy.
Being connected to the speed-force is a property that is inherent in DC characters not ones from Marvel.
Originally posted by krisblaze
But manipulating the speed-force and absorbing kinetic energy is a bit different imo.If he's manipulating the speed-force innate to someone or whatever then that's different from simply absorbing their kinetic energy.
Being connected to the speed-force is a property that is inherent in DC characters not ones from Marvel.
Then one must ask...what is the speed force?
It seems to be synonymous with Kinetic energy.
Originally posted by krisblaze
But manipulating the speed-force and absorbing kinetic energy is a bit different imo.If he's manipulating the speed-force innate to someone or whatever then that's different from simply absorbing their kinetic energy.
Being connected to the speed-force is a property that is inherent in DC characters not ones from Marvel.
I think you’re making a small mistake KrisB. So Flashes get their speed from tapping into the Speed Force, but that is limited only to Flashes (and the reverse flash ...not to Zoom, who is technically a time manipulator).
Other super fast characters in DC ...for example, Superman (one of the few characters that could have a hyperfast conversation with Flash), WonderWoman (speed of Hermès or Mercury), The Martian Manhunter, Captain Marvel, Black Adam (was running at Mach 500 ...), the various white martians (fast enough to pretend to be speedsters), the various members of the GL corps (who have been recorded going past light speed), etc ...are simply fast because they are fast.
They are not connected to the Speed Force. Only the Flashes are.
The only thing that is DC about their speedsters is DC has many characters that have some level of super speed, and that the Flashes are connected to the Speed Force.
The speed force is not inherent to OTHER DC characters apart from the various Flashes and one of the Reverse Flashes.
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Originally posted by spetznaz
I think you’re making a small mistake KrisB. So Flashes get their speed from tapping into the Speed Force, but that is limited only to Flashes (and the reverse flash ...not to Zoom, who is technically a time manipulator).Other super fast characters in DC ...for example, Superman (one of the few characters that could have a hyperfast conversation with Flash), WonderWoman (speed of Hermès or Mercury), The Martian Manhunter, Captain Marvel, Black Adam (was running at Mach 500 ...), the various white martians (fast enough to pretend to be speedsters), the various members of the GL corps (who have been recorded going past light speed), etc ...are simply fast because they are fast.
They are not connected to the Speed Force. Only the Flashes are.
The only thing that is DC about their speedsters is DC has many characters that have some level of super speed, and that the Flashes are connected to the Speed Force.
The speed force is not inherent to OTHER DC characters apart from the various Flashes and one of the Reverse Flashes.
Afaik, the SF connects everything that moves, not just speedsters, which is how the Flash can affect everyone and everything that's moving.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And Flashes?
https://s5.postimg.org/5dzmch2l3/image.jpg
Was he lending his speed to Superdouche and Manjobber as well? Just wondering.
