Originally posted by krisblaze
Im not saying Flash's powers shouldn't work. Are you being willfully obtuse here? 😛Im saying that we shouldn't assume that all characters are connected to company-specific abstract concepts.
The pink lanterns dont draw their powers from mistress love do they? Nor are DC mages all connected to the energy matrix in otherworld? Does the Britain Corps hold sway over the 52 universes in DC?
Are all DC telepaths connected to the neural net that the Shadow King dominated? Or connected to the game master?
It's just not workable.
i'm not saying he can cut them off from the sf though--you're right, that wouldn't make any sense. but stealing kinetic energy isn't cutting them off from the speed force. there's no reason he couldn't speed steal all their speed--after all he has stolen the speed of surtur, and even an entire planet...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is interesting.Should the Speed Force be assumed to be at play with Marvel characters? I think we should assume it would work like normal in the sense of super-speed but a specific weakness against another character? I mean, it's fair to assume the Flash can steal the kinetic energy of any character, but if the stealing of that kinetic energy is directed linked to a Speed Force connection, then it shouldn't be in play imo.
For the record, the way I remember it being described, the Speed Force is a separate force that didn't control all kinetic energy. It simply allowed Flash to steal kinetic energy through it's extra-dimensional energy properties.
i agree. the sf is the source of all motion in dc afaik, and having control of it allows control of motion, or kinetic energy. that control has never to my knowledge been superseded.
I don't think the Power Cosmic is the same thing for example. It's just another extra-dimensional source of energy that has only been used to above normal effects against other heralds, not other Marvel characters, much less DC characters. If the Surfer drained Terrax because of the Power Cosmic, and someone tried to use that as evidence against the Flash, I'd think that was stupid AF for example. [/B]
maybe. what i'm saying is that were ss dropped into the dcu (without galactus present) it seems likely (or at least reasonable) to me that he would be powerless. if the pc stems from galactus, and there is no galactus... but in a forum setting we assume the pc works fine in a completely neutral setting.
i dunno, maybe i wasn't very clear with an early post. feels like we're sort of all on the same wavelength though.
