Originally posted by The Ellimist
If Windu wins, at the moment I'd vote UnuThul, Krayt, Caedus and Tenebrous above Valkorion. Not sure if I'll make the leap and put Vader down too.Link?
Relativistic movement speeds.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
If Windu wins, at the moment I'd vote UnuThul, Krayt, Caedus and Tenebrous above Valkorion. Not sure if I'll make the leap and put Vader down too.Link?
Relativistic movement speeds.
Originally posted by Haschwalth
https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/star-wars-feat-malaks-movement-and-force-drain-speed.19662/#comment-153389Relativistic movement speeds.
Yeah see the difference is that our arguments aren't retarded. Literally his entire calculation is predicated on thinking that the ship is moving at the same speed that its "speed" is rated at on a sourcebook which makes zero sense whatsoever given that there's no "maximum" speed in space below c and perhaps the drag of cosmic particles and so the ship could be moving at any speed relative to Malak; indeed in almost every space battle we see they don't move anywhere near how fast they could accelerate to, for whatever reason.
But it's good to note that you'll take my Starkiller-oneshots-ISD's-shields feat at face value (not that it shares the same legit criticisms). 👆
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Yeah see the difference is that our arguments aren't retarded. Literally his entire calculation is predicated on thinking that the ship is moving at the same speed that its "speed" is rated at on a sourcebook which makes zero sense whatsoever given that there's no "maximum" speed in space below c and perhaps the drag of cosmic particles and so the ship could be moving at any speed relative to Malak; indeed in almost every space battle we see they don't move anywhere near how fast they could accelerate to, for whatever reason.But it's good to note that you'll take my Starkiller-oneshots-ISD's-shields feat at face value (not that it shares the same legit criticisms). 👆
Arguing Maul could blitz Valkorian is just as retarded from their point of view.
There is speeds ships go in space without hitting light speed, what you think they jump to LS, the moment they enter space? No they have a maximum set speed before they enter hyperspace. you think your opinion is more reliable than a source book. Ok. WTf is a cosmic particle drag?
Originally posted by Haschwalth
Arguing Maul could blitz Valkorian is just as retarded from their point of view.
I don't care lol, that doesn't mean that it is and the arguments on your team's side have thus far been lacking.
There is speeds ships go in space without hitting light speed, what you think they jump to LS, the moment they enter space? No they have a maximum set speed before they enter hyperspace.
??? What does that have to do with the feat lmao
you think your opinion is more reliable than a source book. Ok.
I have no idea how the speed the ships go to before hyperspace has anything to do with CT's calc unless if he explained it really poorly.
WTf is a cosmic particle drag?
Well I was trying to figure out what the "speed" of a ship in space could be do it's either like the maximum speed it can accelerate to given its fuel (which wouldn't bode well for the calc since it presumably isn't going at that speed) or maybe that's the speed at which the force exerted by stray hydrogen particles found in a vacuum equal the thrust of its engines or something, but it's an absurdly arbitrary assumption to say that the ships are moving at that velocity just 'cause.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
I don't care lol, that doesn't mean that it is and the arguments on your team's side have thus far been lacking.??? What does that have to do with the feat lmao
I have no idea how the speed the ships go to before hyperspace has anything to do with CT's calc unless if he explained it really poorly.
Well I was trying to figure out what the "speed" of a ship in space could be do it's either like the maximum speed it can accelerate to given its fuel (which wouldn't bode well for the calc since it presumably isn't going at that speed) or maybe that's the speed at which the force exerted by stray hydrogen particles found in a vacuum equal the thrust of its engines or something, but it's an absurdly arbitrary assumption to say that the ships are moving at that velocity just 'cause.
1. That's the point, no point in insulting it, because they have the same view about your arguments thus, it's pointless.
2.
whatsoever given that there's no "maximum" speed in space below c
3.He literally has a quote with the speed of those ships he was quoting in space, and had good reason it was hitting near those speeds, as the ships had been engaged in battle for minutes, giving it time to reach those speeds.
4.Each of those ships have a planetary level core of energy, they easily could hit relativistic speeds. And no it's not just cause it's the stated speed, that they move.
Originally posted by Haschwalth
1. That's the point, no point in insulting it, because they have the same view about your arguments thus, it's pointless.
lolwut
Did you just try to blanket dismiss any sort of argumentation as equally valid on some nihilistic principle to get out of a silly calc you brought up?
2.You seemed to have said ships don't have a max speed before they go hyperspace, in space.
wtf are you saying lol
3.He literally has a quote with the speed of those ships he was quoting in space, and had good reason it was hitting near those speeds, as the ships had been engaged in battle for minutes, giving it time to reach those speeds.
Except we see fleet battles in Star Wars and the ships don't regularly start reaching hypersonic velocities relative to one another lol. I'm not saying they can't reach these speeds, they just don't employ them in fleet combat for whatever reason.
4.Each of those ships have a planetary level core of energy, they easily could hit relativistic speeds. And no it's not just cause it's the stated speed, that they move.
I'm sorry but your posts regarding this feat have been literally incoherent.
Originally posted by Haschwalth
https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/star-wars-feat-malaks-movement-and-force-drain-speed.19662/#comment-153389Relativistic movement speeds.
Malak can move at relativistic speeds now, can he?
Obi-Wan used the Force to summon his lightsaber and tossed it to Anakin. With two lightsabers, the young Jedi attacked anew. Bur Dooku blocked every thrust and, step by step, drove Anakin back. He slashed through one lightsaber, extinguishing its blade. Then, with a stroke faster than light, he cut through Anakin's right arm at the elbow.
The young Jedi dropped to the ground in agony, gripping the smoking stump of his sword arm.
Mighty Chronicles: Attack of the Clones
How cute.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
lolwutDid you just try to blanket dismiss any sort of argumentation as equally valid on some nihilistic principle to get out of a silly calc you brought up?
wtf are you saying lol
Except we see fleet battles in Star Wars and the ships don't regularly start reaching hypersonic velocities relative to one another lol. I'm not saying they can't reach these speeds, they just don't employ them in fleet combat for whatever reason.
I'm sorry but your posts regarding this feat have been literally incoherent.
1. I'm commenting on the fact you find calling retarded is pointless, it may be from your perspective, but not from theirs.
2.Ships hit a certain max velocity that they can reach in space, this is fact. In fiction or not. those republic ships happen to be able to move at relativistic speeds.
3.As evident where, fighters can reach Relativistic speeds in space.
For merely human pilots, this would be suicide. By the time you can see your partner's starfighter streaking toward you at a respectable fraction of lightspeed, it's already too late for your merely human reflexes to react.from the ROts novelisation
But these particular pilots were far from merely human.
4. probably because I could of said all of it on one of your posts.
Originally posted by Azronger
Malak can move at relativistic speeds now, can he?Obi-Wan used the Force to summon his lightsaber and tossed it to Anakin. With two lightsabers, the young Jedi attacked anew. Bur Dooku blocked every thrust and, step by step, drove Anakin back. He slashed through one lightsaber, extinguishing its blade. Then, with [b]a stroke faster than light,
he cut through Anakin's right arm at the elbow.The young Jedi dropped to the ground in agony, gripping the smoking stump of his sword arm.
Mighty Chronicles: Attack of the Clones
How cute. [/B]
Funny how you don't know the difference between movement speed and reaction speed, the same post I sent you has Malak's drain speed at 1.5C rofl.
Originally posted by Haschwalth
1. I'm commenting on the fact you find calling retarded is pointless, it may be from your perspective, but not from theirs.
After you started this tangent by incredulously wondering how we were backing Maul you want to pivot to "all stances are equally valid"? Lol ok then.
2.Ships hit a certain max velocity that they can reach in space, this is fact.
The only speed limit in space is the speed of light, which you can approach asymptotically but never reach, lmao.
3.As evident where, fighters can reach Relativistic speeds in space.from the ROts novelisation
?? I just said that ships can reach relativistic speeds, I just said that there's no reason to think they were moving that fast in that scene because they basically never do in that context.
4. probably because I could of said all of it on one of your posts.
Your sentences literally don't make any sense lol, wtf does that mean?
Originally posted by The Ellimist
After you started this tangent by incredulously wondering how we were backing Maul you want to pivot to "all stances are equally valid"? Lol ok then.The only speed limit in space is the speed of light, which you can approach asymptotically but never reach, lmao.
?? I just said that ships can reach relativistic speeds, I just said that there's no reason to think they were moving that fast in that scene because they basically never do in that context.
Your sentences literally don't make any sense lol, wtf does that mean?
1.This is pointless.
2.If you want to go down that path, we simply haven't developed enough of an understanding, to assume Light speed is the limit. SW universe is beyond our level of understanding.
3. The Quote was literally in combat, which contradicts your statement, they do fight at these speeds in space combat.
RotS novelisation said:
Obi-Wan was already making that exact move as Anakin spoke. But they were inverted to each other: breaking right shot him one way while Anakin whipped the other. The tri-fighters' cannons ripped space between them, tracking faster than their starfighters could slip.
His onboard threat display chimed a warning: two of the droids had remote sensor locks on him. The others must have lit up his partner. "Anakin! Slip-jaws!"
"My thought exactly."
They blew past the tri-fighters, looping in evasive spirals. The droid ships wrenched themselves into pursuit maneuvers that would have killed any living pilot.
The slip-jaws maneuver was named for the scissorlike mandibles of the Kashyyyk slash-spider. Droids closing rapidly on their tails, cannonfire stitching space on all sides, the two Jedi pulled their ships through perfectly mirrored rolls that sent them streaking head-on for each other from opposite ends of a vast Republic cruiser.
For merely human pilots, this would be suicide. By the time you can see your partner's starfighter streaking toward you at a respectable fraction of lightspeed, it's already too late for your merely human reflexes to react.
But these particular pilots were far from merely human.
The Force nudged hands on control yokes and the Jedi starfighters twisted and flashed past each other belly-to-belly, close enough to scorch each other's paint. Tri-fighters were the Trade Federation's latest space-superiority droid. But even the electronic reflexes of the tri-fighters' droid brains were too slow for this: one of his pursuers met one of Anakin's head-on. Both vanished in a blossom of flame.