Originally posted by TenebrousWay
All these circumtances presented feats that dispelled dubious notions. That's exactly why I originally asked the same for Obi Wan: if he's wrong, where's the evidence?
According to Wild Space, yeah, from an event like this, he thinks that he is more powerful than Yoda. At least if we go by "x character performs stuff that is huge and I doubt if even Yoda could do it" type kind of stuff.
Originally posted by ILS
Disney doesn't touch any of legends, they use it as a resource for ideas. There is no hierarchy within the legends themselves, because all of it is non-canon.The only moron we can positively identify in this thread, AP, is you.
That's categorically wrong. Whilst none of it is Canon, SWTOR for instance has been confirmed to be its own universe that continues under the Legends banner. They have in fact gone so far as to say that SWTOR is untouched because they have no plans for visiting that era. There is an internalised hierarchy within Legends. You claim you've read Force and Destiny, and yet ignore what it actually says.
Originally posted by AncientPower
That's categorically wrong. Whilst none of it is Canon, SWTOR for instance has been confirmed to be its own universe that continues under the Legends banner. They have in fact gone so far as to say that SWTOR is untouched because they have no plans for visiting that era. There is an internalised hierarchy within Legends. You claim you've read Force and Destiny, and yet ignore what it actually says.
Thana Vesh causing such devastation so as to burn down a city block as a child before two decades of 'prodigal' growth:
Yet she's not even more powerful than her own master who is sub-Dark Council. She also got wrecked by Act II Wrath:
"You were never a match for me."
- The Wrath, Star Wars the Old Republic
Darth Qalar and Darth Victun reducing this citadel to rubble as an effect of their duel:
Yet couldn't kill each other, so were executed thereafter by stronger members. They weren't even the most prominent members of the Dark Council in their time. Yet it's implied that the Dark Council as of SWTOR is the most competitive it's been. So pretty much every DC member in SWTOR of note we know of is capable of similar feats.
Wrath went through Masters Yonlach & Yul-Li, Yonlach single-handedly was considered so strong the Dark Council couldn't manage to get him killed. Who per Malavai Quinn, were more dangerous than an entire army of a 1,000 elite Republic forces, in which featured Jedi Knights as platoon leaders. All led by powerhouse great war veteran Generals with anti-Force user battle armor and weaponry. An army strong enough to kick the Sith Empire, including Darth Lachriss, off of Balmorra completely.
Then he thoroughly defeated Master Nomen Karr, who was considered the most dangerous opponent the Wrath had faced. Scaling him off of everything prior. He also defeated Darth Baras, and was a Jedi master who infiltrated the Sith empire and managed to escape the depths of Sith space single-handedly when Baras uncovered him.
He went through Master Wyellett faster than a cave collapsed, who is once again beyond any opponent the Wrath had faced prior. Not just considered so powerful that he's a living superweapon; nevermind the fact he defeated Darth Baras and took his lightsaber, but that's all before achieving decades of enlightenment where his power multiplied.
The next victim on this list is Darth Ekkage, Baras' sister, noted by the Wrath himself to be the most difficult opponent he's ever fought. She was so incredibly powerful and skilled that she could've won the war for the Empire and is considered quite possibly the greatest Sith assassin in history up until her time. This'd include Darth Sion, Darth Thanaton and more.
Then of course we have Darth Baras himself. Baras is incredible, he was a mere apprentice to Darth Decimus, being beaten by Nomen Karr and Wyellett and frankly nothing more than a possible equal to Great War Satele Shan. Until of course he bound the spirit of Darth Traya using a ritual. What this allowed him was not just the ability to use her powers to see the future with incredible accuracy, but to drain her powers over-all. Better yet, he made a deal with Sel-Makor to gain even more power. Strong enough in fact to bring Draagh back from the brink of death, heal him, and him even stronger than before, so much so that he could trap Darth Vowrawn with a death field that was destroying him by the second. He'd gained so much power that he was considered nigh indestructible and convinced some members of the Dark Council that he was the Voice of the Emperor. Obviously meaning he had the power to destroy the Dark Council single-handedly. Yet the Wrath engages Darth Baras and 'ruins' him in combat.
Then the Wrath grows more powerful through the war over Ilum, the battles against Soa and the World Razer, the battle of Makeb, the entire Dread war, and the Revanite war. Each of those battles/events are at least one year apart. All prior to facing the cataclysm of Ziost. Then he finally fights Arcann and:
Then Arcann gets vastly more powerful in KOTET, where he's gained the potential to overthrow Vaylin per Valkorion.
Not one ounce of Oneness scaling anywhere, Maul dies.
Thana Vesh after two decades of "prodigal growth" lost to non force sensitive scrubs at every corner. I suppose that nameless cathar waving a metal sword around also gets city busting scaling?
Also your precious Shitlander with the help of Havoc Squad couldn't beat a handful of droids and needed rescuing from peasants. So much for city busting 😂
Originally posted by AncientPower
Oh I'm sorry, brain death anonymous, I must've been using the same logic ILS started this with in the first place. 😂
Take it up with ILS then, I just find it funny how you want to discredit OCW because it's inconsistent with canon then wank the shit out of swtor that's not even consistent with itself.
Originally posted by AncientPower
It's almost as if she was using her full potential and was desperate to save her friends. It's almost as if it'd be a massive outlier that puts her on Yoda tier otherwise.
Inconsistencies happen across all sources in Star Wars. Fact. The OCW is referenced by other canon (in Legends) sources, so clearly, its material should be considered. Let's not cherry pick because it doesn't align with our preferences.