Arcann vs. Darth Maul

Started by SunRazer16 pages
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Take it up with ILS then, I just find it funny how you want to discredit OCW because it's inconsistent with canon then wank the shit out of swtor that's not even consistent with itself.

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I don't want to discredit OCW, I'm pointing out that OCW directly conflicts with Legends TCW material in numerous ways and that's more than enough of a reason to reconsider how much weight it really holds.

SWTOR is entirely different in many ways and isn't a saga era depiction.

TCW shouldn't even be Legends in the first place(as a whole, minor things aside), it should just be Canon only while the Legends timeline has the CWMMP.

Originally posted by AncientPower
[B]Thana Vesh causing such devastation so as to burn down a city block as a child before two decades of 'prodigal' growth:

She involuntarily unleashed her potential and successfully managed to...
start a fire.

Impressive AP, most impressive.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
TCW shouldn't even be Legends in the first place(as a whole, minor things aside), it should just be Canon only while the Legends timeline has the CWMMP.

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Originally posted by ILS
Yeah, I'm sure someone who was just recently knighted and who gets taken out by blaster bolts which Ki-Adi-Mundi had no issues deflecting, is above Maul, Dooku, Kenobi etc. Makes so much sense.

https://imgur.com/a/6NYKD


Why would we gauge telekinetic prowess based on blaster deflection rather than, you know, telekinetic prowess?

Not to mention I'm willing to bet that some of the stwor characters you're using this scaling to place kenobi and maul above also can deflect blaster fire better.

If you're going to take the feat as something Anu can replicate at will(because if it's simply an expression of potential, you can't scale from it), it being far more impressive than anything Kenobi or Maul have done would place her as more powerful than they are.

Her rank isn't remotely relevant. If she's stopping star destroyers with one hand, she clearly a prodigee, you'll need more than an absence of evidence here. In absence of scaling, the character who's demonstrated greater power should be taken to be more powerful.

You can't give characters scaling they don't get.

It was a Kaas City block. They're made of metal, and under constant rain. But lowball as much as you like. Whatever helps you feel good at night.

There's no need for that, Thana lowballs herself.

Thana is shit even by TOR standards, but let's keep pretending she's some all powerful god that could blow up city blocks.

Metal burns in fires too. It's like talking to a bunch of 9/11 truthers.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
TCW shouldn't even be Legends in the first place(as a whole, minor things aside), it should just be Canon only while the Legends timeline has the CWMMP.

No, because Legends only content, like the Jedi Path, involve TCW characters. TCW is in the same place as the movies.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Thana is shit even by TOR standards
True.

Child Thana's still done more impressive things with the Force than anything I've seen from Maul. Though I'm sure Maul's a better duelist.

This is why I have saber-only and Force-only rankings.

Gave the Arcann respect thread a quick look, and his Force barrier- and TK feats are seem particularly impressive, but would anyone be so kind as to elaborate on why TK'ing the Outlander is more impressive than Maul constantly TK'ing Obi-Wan?

He was also fighting HK-55 at the time.

Force Pulling the Outlander under those circumstances is marginally better than Force Choking Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by Geistalt
He was also fighting HK-55 at the time.

Force Pulling the Outlander under those circumstances is marginally better than Force Choking Obi-Wan.


I asked why that is, not for someone to simply reiterate that opinion.

Originally posted by Sirion_Of_Doom
I asked why that is, not for someone to simply reiterate that opinion.
There's a lot of that going around.

Now, if T3 had been there, different story...

Originally posted by AncientPower
Rivi Anu was experiencing Oneness
No, she wasn't (according to Wookieepedia, anyways).

Gotta love the flagrant double standards from the SWTOR camp. Can't say I'm surprised, though. It's nothing new. Why play a game you can never win when you can just try to flip the board in tears?

Scaling all of its dimensions compared to ISDs based on length, it's only 36% as massive as the Star Destroyer that Galen TK'd, though.

More impressed by the arguments for Maul.

Originally posted by Geistalt
True.

Child Thana's still done more impressive things with the Force than anything I've seen from Maul. Though I'm sure Maul's a better duelist.

This is why I have saber-only and Force-only rankings.


There's not a single showing from Thana as a child. We're told sometime between the ages of 4-20 she started a fire. That's it.

Does fire typically melt metal in the rain?

Because we're also told it burned a chunk of Kaas City to the ground.