Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
Mace was second to Yoda, not Dooku. Although evidence indicates that Dooku would have been close to Mace.
Evidence has Yoda calling Dooku his strongest student and that Dooku used to outspar Mace as a Jedi. Which makes sense considering Vaapad wouldn't be that great against a Jedi Master with amazing Form II.
Darth Tyranus>Jedi Dooku>Mace>Darth Tyranus
A perfect example of why A>B>C logic doesn't work in star wars.
We often take for granted the enormous power boost Dooku received with Sidious' tutelage, yet people have no issues pontificating over how massively omfgwtf super powerful Maul became in TCW because he started lifting heavy things. It's quite funny.
Based on the fact Dooku was introduced to "powers beyond his most spectacular fantasies" by Sidious, aka powers Maul had already been extensively tutored in, and based on the fact Dooku has no accomplishments to outrank Maul's own capabilities at this time, I'll need to throw the vote to the more deserving party. Maul wins.
Likely a good fight though.
Originally posted by Geistalt
Except Mace probably improved by RotS.To the extent that he was capable of outdueling Sidious.
Do you have a quote for that? Mace is tailor made to take on powerful darksiders. He can outduel Sidious with Vaapad, but would lose to Yoda everytime even though the two are on a par.
D'oh; I ran to that quote as soon as I read the first sentence.
Apparently equally respected and powerful as Yoda, per Fact File 11:
Along with Mace Windu, a senior member of the Jedi Council, Yoda was the most respected and most powerful member of the Jedi Order.Alongside Mace Windu, with whom he served on the Jedi Council, Yoda was the most respected and most powerful Master ever to have walked the corridors of the Jedi Temple.
Roughly equal to Darth Tyranus as of Dark Rendezvous:
Among the other Jedi, perhaps only Mace Windu would have been his equal on neutral ground
Originally posted by ILS
And explain how gravity exists, while you're at it.We need proof Mace got more powerful in 13 years including 3 years of extremely intense war. Chances are he stagnated.
Did Yoda get more powerful in 13 years including 3 years of extremely intense war? Did Kit Fisto? Did Agen Kolar? + We've seen some Jedi like Kenobi atrophy with age past 40...you know like normal people.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Did Yoda get more powerful in 13 years including 3 years of extremely intense war? Did Kit Fisto? Did Agen Kolar? + We've seen some Jedi like Kenobi atrophy with age past 40...you know like normal people.
Originally posted by Geistalt
D'oh; I ran to that quote as soon as I read the first sentence.Apparently equally respected and powerful as Yoda, per Fact File 11:
Roughly equal to Darth Tyranus as of Dark Rendezvous:
Yeah the second would suggest he surpassed Jedi Dooku. Although Yoda as of DR does call Dooku the strongest student with Mace in the room if I recall.