If you say so.
But Labyrinth of Evil claims Anakin was as powerful in the Force as Yoda.
Clearly Anakin was as strong in the Force as any Jedi who had ever sat on the Council. But as Obi-Wan had told him time and again, the essence of being a Jedi didn't hinge on attaining mastery of the Force, but on attaining mastery over oneself. - Labyrinth of Evil
Originally posted by GeistaltDespite all his force power he failed against Kenobi who didn't even have the force power of Dooku. Why because it had to do with their skills with a lightsaber not just force power alone.
If you say so.But Labyrinth of Evil claims Anakin was as powerful in the Force as Yoda.
And even with power equal to Yoda's he had trouble following Mace and Sidious in the RotS novel.
It suggests that he won largely thanks to Force power, rather than dueling prowess.
Him being hindered on Mustafar and subsequently faring as badly as he did against Kenobi suggests that Mustafar Vader was as powerful in the Force as Kenobi and slightly worse skill-wise.
Originally posted by GeistaltNo, I don't buy it. I hear the same double standards all the time. Somehow when he wins its due to power but when he loses to a less powerful opponent excuses are thrown around. Giving into your anger lets loose your power and he was raging against Kenobi. He lost because he made a poor decision due to arrogance. He was unable to strike,Kenobi down prior to his poor impulsive decision.
And even with power equal to Yoda's he had trouble following Mace and Sidious in the RotS novel.It suggests that he won largely thanks to Force power, rather than dueling prowess.
Him being hindered on Mustafar and subsequently faring as badly as he did against Kenobi suggests that Mustafar Vader was as powerful in the Force as Kenobi and slightly worse skill-wise.
Dooku was arrogant against Anakin and lost. Just as Dooku explains to Yoda this will be decided by our skills with a lightsaber. Both duels were skilled light saber fights.
Originally posted by GeistaltHe is more powerful and Kenobi but in a test of force power there wasn't a difference. That goes to show you despite the edge Anakin had that it didn't really matter when push came to shove. That's why the huge difference in power between Snoke and Rey is so impressive.
How is examining that statement from Labyrinth of Evil and then the fact that he was Kenobi's equal in Force strength on Mustafar a double standard?
Originally posted by BentleyMaul is far more agile and full of hatred than Dooku. His movement speed is far greater than Dooku who relies on precise strikes to make up for his aged body.
Dooku is the finest saber in the mythos and this time he won't be as old as he was in RoTS.The only hope Maul has is to be better at the Force and boost himself beyond Dooku, but he won't do it as well as Anakin did.
Dooku has faced a faster and more unconventional opponent in Yoda who also happened to be more powerful in the Force than Maul. His master was also a much smaller target who, due to smaller members, could flex his weapon much more quickly. Jedi Dooku is also younger so he is less impaired by his age than he was in either of his movie appearances.
Ultimately Maul is good but he's no Sidious/Yoda/Vader.
Originally posted by BentleyDooku didn't best Yoda and fled from him. Maul would best Vader and anyone on that level. Sidious, Yoda, and Windu would best him. I'm as objective as it gets.
Dooku has faced a faster and more unconventional opponent in Yoda who also happened to be more powerful in the Force than Maul. His master was also a much smaller target who, due to smaller members, could flex his weapon much more quickly. Jedi Dooku is also younger so he is less impaired by his age than he was in either of his movie appearances.Ultimately Maul is good but he's no Sidious/Yoda/Vader.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku didn't best Yoda and fled from him. Maul would best Vader and anyone on that level. Sidious, Yoda, and Windu would best him. I'm as objective as it gets.
Again, you don't need to best Yoda to outclass Maul. Maul doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell vs Peak Anakin.
As far as fencing goes I don't think Mace is beyond Dooku tbh. I'd give Tyranus a few wins on him at least.
Originally posted by BentleyYou are lying. Peak Anakin didn't even best Kenobi so do not lie or exaggerate Vader. He was always more of a tragic character than some badass just mopping the floor with his opponents.
Again, you don't need to best Yoda to outclass Maul. Maul doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell vs Peak Anakin.As far as fencing goes I don't think Mace is beyond Dooku tbh. I'd give Tyranus a few wins on him at least.
Windu is in the upper tier Dooku isn't. You're free to believe in unicorns and pixie dust just don't expect me to share your odd beliefs.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You are lying. Peak Anakin didn't even best Kenobi so do not lie or exaggerate Vader. He was always more of a tragic character than some badass just mopping the floor with his opponents.
Kenobi just improved and dropped all his distraction. He was getting his _ss handed to him at the beginning of the match but then he let go off his doubts and fears. Without those worries Kenobi was a force to be reckoned with.
Also Vader, just like Maul, lost because he underestimated his Obi-Wan, not because he was just outclassed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Windu is in the upper tier Dooku isn't. You're free to believe in unicorns and pixie dust just don't expect me to share your odd beliefs.
Windu had Vapaad against Sheev, he won't get as big of a boost vs Dooku who has a style that will be effective vs Windu.