Captain America vs Superman

Captain America is given the same flight, durability, strength and speed as Superman, however he will lack X-Ray Vision, Freeze Breath and the other exotic powers Superman only-sometimes uses. But he keeps his shield. How will he do if he fights Superman?

1. Comic versions
2. MCU vs DCEU versions

Does he get any time to train with his new powers?

If he does, he owns Superman in both scenarios.

Captain America in both scenarios (obviously assuming he knows how to use the powers otherwise he will be smashing through mountains like DCEU Superman at the beginning of Man Of Steel).

Steve wins both for the same reason that Superman defeated Wraith (a more powerful alien being with powers similar to his, just at a greater level, in Superman Unleashed ...a good read). In that story, Superman defeated Wraith at one point hand to hand, stating that he (Superman) often had to fight more powerful foes with no backup support, while Wraith always relied on just his powers and anyways had the full might of the US military behind him (Wraith was the secret weapon for the US military, and was allegedly what caused either the Hiroshima or Nagasaki blast in WW2).

Steve would defeat Superman for ironically the same reasons. Steve is used to fighting more powerful opponents, and has adapted his skills and fighting abilities towards that. Giving him the strength, speed, invulnerability etc of Superman would basically result in ...a Black Adam type character with the fighting abilities of Batman.

Superman dies.

Steve beats Superman relatively easy if he has learned to control his powers.

Originally posted by gauntlet o doom
Captain America is given the same flight, durability, strength and speed as Superman, however he will lack X-Ray Vision, Freeze Breath and the other exotic powers Superman only-sometimes uses. But he keeps his shield. How will he do if he fights Superman?

1. Comic versions
2. MCU vs DCEU versions

If Cap is competent in the use of his powers (and he should be, otherwise the thread premise is basically a character incompetent in the use of unfamiliar powers vs one of the most powerful characters in comics, and i doubt you'd do that), then i believe he wins, KMCer.

Originally posted by Byond
Steve beats Superman relatively easy if he has learned to control his powers.

Given that they have equaled everything for the 2, yes he would.

Steve would beat Batman in a h2h fight. He would stalemate WW if their stats were equaled in a h2h fight.

Wonder Woman and Batman is both above Superman in fighting ability. And Captain America's tenacity and strong will is greater than Superman's.

You really are sucking Superman's dick.. but then again, that is what every fanboy of any character does. So I am not surprised.

They haven't equalled though, just pointing out.

Supes still has freeze breath and HV, for example.

Superman sundips for the sh_t stomp 👆

If Supes can sundip to become stronger and Steve can't, it wouldn't be fair. Also, I doubt that HV and FB would be a decider in the fight.

This all comes down to what the OP really want the battle rules to be. Can Superman sundip to become stronger? And can Steve also sundip to increase his strength to become stronger? Too vague fight description imo. Should have been more precise about that.

The FB was strong enough to stop Bizarro.

Who is at least on the same level, if not stronger.

And if we're going the powerset route, being incapacitated for even a split second is an age to someone like Supes.

Originally posted by Byond
If Supes can sundip to become stronger and Steve can't, it wouldn't be fair. Also, I doubt that HV and FB would be a decider in the fight.

This all comes down to what the OP really want the battle rules to be. Can Superman sundip to become stronger? And can Steve also sundip to increase his strength to become stronger? Too vague fight description imo. Should have been more precise about that.

More explicit? You get clearcut the powerset he gets and that he doesn't get further powers. Steve gets punked hard.

And T.Voed to death 👆

Do you forget that in this fight, Steve have the same physical abilities as Superman. I would assume with speed he means that he can do anything Superman can with his speed. So their perception of things should be equalized.

FB wouldn't really matter for Steve since you know, he can and will avoid it when Superman uses it. And HV would also be useless against Steve because he can block it with his shield. This will come down to a h2h fight (and if Superman isn't allowed to sundip), Steve would beat Clark.

Originally posted by Bentley
More explicit? You get clearcut the powerset he gets and that he doesn't get further powers. Steve gets punked hard.

And T.Voed to death 👆

The OP really should not allow Sundip, and if he does, Steve should also get it. Because otherwise it's just an unfair fight. And it would all be a pointless thread.

Yes, their perceptions are the same.

That's not what I meant, lol.

It means that a milisecond (for example) would be ages for BOTH of them.

Except Steve once more is trapped in ice. Even if it only traps him for a milisecond, that's ages.

To both of them.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, their perceptions are the same.

That's not what I meant, lol.

It means that a milisecond (for example) would be ages for BOTH of them.

Except Steve once more is trapped in ice. Even if it only traps him for a milisecond, that's ages.

To both of them.

I'm assuming with equalised stats, they'll be like you and I in a fight.

And I sure as hell will not only blow all over you first chance I get, but I reckon I will succeed too 👆

Because equalised stats. You're not gonna be faster or slower than mem. We'll be the same, except I have long range attacks and you don't.

Originally posted by Byond
Given that they have equaled everything for the 2, yes he would.

Steve would beat Batman in a h2h fight. He would stalemate WW if their stats were equaled in a h2h fight.

Wonder Woman and Batman is both above Superman in fighting ability. And Captain America's tenacity and strong will is greater than Superman's.

You really are sucking Superman's dick.. but then again, that is what every fanboy of any character does. So I am not surprised.

If Steve have learned to utilize his powers to the fullest, and Superman doesn't sundip to increase his speed and strength and durability, Steve would win simply because he is a better and smarter fighter than Superman. If Superman is allowed to sundip,, and Steve have not learned to control the powers he have, he would most certainly win. HV would do jack shit since Cap have his shield. As for FB, wouldn't really matter as Steve can avoid it due to his increased speed.

Originally posted by Byond
If Steve have learned to utilize his powers to the fullest, and Superman doesn't sundip to increase his speed and strength and durability, Steve would win simply because he is a better and smarter fighter than Superman. If Superman is allowed to sundip, he would most certainly win. HV would do jack shit since Cap have his shield. As for FB, wouldn't really matter as Steve can avoid it due to his increased speed.

But avoiding it implies he's faster than Superman.

But he's not. He's the same speed.